JFK Papers

I've never heard that either.

The mystery is not who but why.

Never hurts to have a reminder that even those who look wonderful have feet of clay.

Yes niggly, the service chap sat next to the driver, behind them the govener and his wife, behind them JFK and Jackie, I too thought he was shot in the back of his head

I've certainly never heard this version of events! As I understand it JFK was shot first in the throat and again in the back of the head falling sideways into Jackies lap.

But the secret service chap was sitting in the front seat and was JFK not shot in the back of his head?

Surely there's no longer any mystery about who killed JFK. There was a programme about it not so long ago that proved that Lee Harvey Oswald could not have fired three bullets. He shot the Governor, then the Secret Service guard in the car stood up to shoot back, lurched and shot JFK by accident. It was hushed up for obvious reasons. It was proved by examinations of the wounds and by measurements of the trajectories of the bullets. The top marksmen in the country tried to replicate the "3 bullets from LHO" theory and it was found to be physically impossible.

Oh yes, poor Stephen Ward, literally hounded to his death. Not the establishment's finest hour!! A dreadful business

Paddyann - I'm sorry but I can't really understand your point. The lack of coherence and punctuation make it impossible to follow.

Stephen Ward was a victim poor man

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The Profumo scandal. If you ever see a book called 'An Affair of State ( the framing of Stephen Ward) it will tell you everything you need to know.

That is true niggly,

By then I doubt there'd be anyone left alive who'd really care and the guilty person would have been dead long ago!!

I think everything should get ‘raked up’ when the time comes. I don’t want anyone to think if dirty secrets are hidden for long enough they will never be re-examined and the truth be told.

The uncomfortable truth is that before the war a lot of prominent people admired Hitler and the way he pulled Germany back from destitution and despair. Edward and Wallis were two of these. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but during the thirties before Hitler totally showed his true colours, the new autobahn (sp) was something to admire as were lots of carefully choreographed projects. No one, despite warnings from people in the know, seemed aware of, or believed in the warnings of the end game until it was nearly too late.

I think its calculated on the people who VOTE CAROL54 as far as I'm aware the ONLY time there was a rule about it being a specific % of the whole population was the devolution referendum of 1979 when if the vote had been held as usual we'd have been devolved 20 years before it actually happened.The electorate who VOTED for the EU was a majority of 62% .if you dont vote it doesn't count .

I have never believed the allegations about Edward and Hitler. A lot of work went into making him a baddie and poor George who jumped when told to jump was put forward with the perfect wife and perfect children as the perfect king.

No real evidence of the alleged many affairs of JFK, Lyndon B was a poor replacement for the man the world had placed their hopes in, so again we had the naughty JFK and the perfect replacement .

No paddyann, WE voted to stay in the U.K. and the UK voted to leave the EU. I voted Remain but the majority did not.

My other enduring memory of JFK, related to a few years after he was assassinated, the nuns at my conent school had elevated him to the status of a demi god, we would file out of daily assembly past two large portraits, one of him and the other of Pope John the XXIII who level pegged in their eyes as prospective saints. This was of course long before we found out about his louche morals and as an adult I wondered how this information would have boded with those nuns given their censorious attitude towards sex outside marriage.

Historical truth is open to interpretation like any other kind of truth, but we cannot interpret anything very well unless we have as many facts as possible.

Disclosing documents 50 years after the events took place is supposed to protect relatives in this case of Kennedy from more distress.

My parents held no brief for Kennedy after the Cuba crisis, and I frankly don't much care who killed him, but it is still appalling that anyone has to die in that fashion.

I would however like to know more about the Prufumo affair, just as I hope to live long enough to hear who actually killed Olof Palme and Dag Hammerskiöld for that matter!

As for the Duke of Windsor most of the facts are out in the open, and as he seems to have been vastly taken with both Mosely and Hitler we were obviously better off with George VI

" for truth is truth
To the end of reckoning."

Isabella in 'Measure for Measure.' And it's quite right. If it's true it should be made public.

Trump has admitted that some facts will not be revealed. So I doubt that we will learn the truth anyway.

It was terribly sad, almost unbelievable, but that was then when people weren't so aware of went on behind closed doors and things were often not as they then seemed. Perhaps we were generally happier for it than we are nowadays, when we are bombarded with news often contradictory which makes you at times not knowing what to think!! Lots of very pertinent comments on here though which give food for thought! The death of the late Duke of Kent?! and the death of George Vth which was apparently not all it seemed! but I not sure that I particularly wanted to know that or feel better now that I do!!!!

One of my sons is fascinated by the Kennedys, has read a few books about the dynasty and apropos of "Madmen" and the music of the time he's very interested in that whole era, civil rights etc. and often asks me about what I remember. Not a lot from the early 60s because I was quite a young child, although I recall having heard about the assasination on the radio when it happened, my mother was next door and had just come in and I announced it to her, she hadn't heard and was so visibly shocked and upset I wish I hadn't just blurted it out. JFK resonated so much with my Catholic parents and the hope he inspired at the time, it was like a small light going out in their lives.

There are so many conspiracy theories surrounding the Dallas shooting and the alleged phone call to a regional newspaper in England, 25 minutes before the event, advising some "big" news was coming out of America that just adds to those.

I remember watching his funeral on the television. So sad.
I can’t see what it will do dragging up the past but I suppose some people want to know.
There was some things said about Churchill which were not pleasing.

We have never been told the truth about the abdication of the Duke Windsor 'they' place all blame on the woman he married , little about the fear he wanted to get involved in the politics of this country