Priti Patel deserves her own thread

Those defending Patel try this thought experiment:

"Minister goes on holiday to a Black Sea resort and holds multiple meetings with Russian politicians, without being escorted by any civil servants. Then returns and continues to keep the PM and Foreign Office in the dark about this"

Hmm.

It seems there seems to have been a briefing that an announcement of her sacking will be made at 7.00 this evening. It will be interesting to see if they can hold off for that long.

Well done ILC. I made the same error.

Ahh, Jewish Chronicle, not the other JC

I was trying to work out exactly what is going on with everything and there is so much it melts your brain.

We need a thread of bullet points really to remind us what is happening.

This is all moving so fast.

"What JC story"

The one I linked to about an hour ago GG
Do keep up

What JC story?

The more I hear about Patel the more I think she should be met by MI5 as she gets off the plane. There is being ambitious and putting your country at risk.

No 10 is saying the JC story is not true - the stakes get higher.

So If Patel is sacked, shouldn’t May go also if she is complicit? Well she won’t of course so will Patel?

Didn’t Burt say as much in parliament yesterday?

What does lying to Parliament by a government minister constitute?

But hasn’t Downing Street been claiming all week that Maybot knew nothing?

If that is true maize can May sack her without risking Patel whistle blowing. Patel has no sense of honour for sure.

She is due to land at 3.30pm but will undoubtedly be whisked away out of sight

Well; this is an interesting twist. The Jewish Chronicle is claiming that May knew about Patel's meetings in Israel..

ast night I wrote on the JC site that something didn’t add up about Number Ten’s claim that it had no idea about Priti Patel’s meetings with senior Israelis.

Far from being unaware, Number 10 knew in full about her meeting with Mr Netanyahu, because Ms Patel had discussed it with the Prime Minister in September, prior to the UN General Assembly.,I then discovered this morning that Number 10 had been told by Ms Patel about her meeting with Israeli foreign office official Yuval Rotem in New York and had specifically asked her not to include it.,It is a truism that with most scandals, the real falloutcomes from the cover up.

My revelations today mean that there are some serious questions for Number 10 to answer about who knew what, when – including the PM.

www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/no-10-knew-about-priti-patel-israel-meetings-1.447605

Did anyone hear Bernard Jenkin this morning saying that Patel hadn’t been sufficiently supported by her civil servants - bloody man is a menace. No doubt he will seek to cast more blame on the civil service as Brexit goes pear shaped.

Perhaps worth waiting to hear from others on that one maryeliza. Slightly worrying if her she is disclosing all this to an outside body though.

I’m losing the plot re PP - it’s now being said that she was told by no 10 do not mention the last two meetings that didn’t take place in Israel. Source is article in Jewish Chronicle so not exactly bias free but still.....

I expect we all have a view of what is important Cindersdad, mine would be close to yours but others would no doubt differ. However, I agree with the overall thought that all this running a government in tandem to May's is distracting from the important role of attempting to run the government we have.

She is on a plane Lemons. I am sure your wish will be the PMs command when she lands and goes to see her.

Matthew Parris calls her "Not-so-Priti Patel" in the Times today.

Patel should be sacked right now ( if not sooner).

And Cinders I think it’s really dangerous to try and devise a hierarchy of what is more important. All the issues matter in different ways - having a loose canon cabinet minister who,lies to the PM is very very serious and particulars meddling in such a tinder box as the Middle East

You have put my thoughts forward so well Maw. I have begun to think that we need to stratify the way MPs and the government works (PR might actually help with this) and pay those actually running the country (the Cabinet) more so we get better. The constituency MPs do, in most cases, a wonderful job but it is so very different from the cabinet responsibilities. I would also say we need fewer of them "running the country".

We are in a time of change and instead of trying to hold the tide at bay how about letting it clean the beach and then move to a new model.

She's not being unfairly sacked at all, Cindersdad. She has committed a massive breach of the Ministerial Code.

The really unfair bit is that May can't sack BJ as he would damage her more if out of the Cabinet than he does in it. That he is hugely damaging the UK's standing in the world is, of course, unimportant. Party + Power comes first every time for tories