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Transgender changing rooms

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Grandmama Sun 12-Nov-17 18:59:06

In Saturday's Times (sorry, I can't do links) Janice Turner wrote about transgender issues. Top Shop has announced that all customers 'are free to use any fitting room located within our stores'. Apparently in Scotland on overnight school trips a young person might be sharing a room with a transgender person and there is no reason for the parents to be informed. There have been issues in America with predatory men. My 16 year old GD uses Topshop, I'm not happy about this. I would not want to use such a changing room. What do other Grans think?

GrandmaMoira Sun 12-Nov-17 19:02:22

As there are individual cubicles to change in within the changing rooms, I don't see this as a big issue but could be helpful if men are taking daughters shopping or vice versa. I know my son finds it useful that swimming pools have unisex changing rooms when taking my DGDs swimming. Sharing a hotel room is quite a different issue and I wouldn't be happy with that.

BlueBelle Sun 12-Nov-17 19:08:19

The first thing that came to mind is Top shop on a Saturday full of giggling teens as the boys and girls flit in and out of each other’s cubicles

Lynnieg Sun 12-Nov-17 19:33:23

Genuine transgender people who have struggled and made the decision to fully transition? Proper locking changing room doors and not flimsy curtains? No problem whatsoever.
However this decision was made following a complaint from this person travisalabanza.co.uk/about/
He identifies as gender fluid and changes his identity according to how he feels on the day. There is a thread on Mumsnet about it.
Yet again female spaces are being surrendered.

vampirequeen Sun 12-Nov-17 22:07:54

Why are female places being surrendered? If the guy is gender fluid then that's what he is. If he's on a she day then he needs to use female changing rooms. He's not interested in the women just the changing facilities.

FarNorth Sun 12-Nov-17 22:28:15

How do you know what he, or any other males, might be interested in on any particular day, vq?

paddyann Sun 12-Nov-17 22:42:16

victim mentality ,seeing problems round every corner where they are unlikely to be.Are you worried your gd might be accosted by a lesbian on school trips ? Thats just as likely to happen ...the chances are minimal .

janeainsworth Sun 12-Nov-17 22:49:16

Presumably if he is gender fluid he has kept all his male equipment, vq.
In which case, if he went into the men’s changing rooms, the other men wouldn’t know he was having a ‘she day’ unless he went out of his way at to tell them.
On the other hand, if he went into a women’s changing room, the women wouldn’t know whether he was a gender fluid person having a ‘she-day’, or a masculine person pretending to be gender-fluid so they could look at women getting changed. I would feel rather intimidated if I was confronted in a changing room or toilets by someone who looked like a man, because how would I know that that day, they happened to feel like a woman?
I have the greatest sympathy with anyone who genuinely feels they have been born the wrong sex, and goes through the whole process of hormone therapy and/or surgery.
But I’m afraid I don’t get gender fluidity and changing one’s gender on a daily basis.

Feelingmyage55 Sun 12-Nov-17 22:59:05

This is a difficult one. I don't like changing rooms at the best of times but have to use them. If the changing rooms are staffed, then that is probably fine but many changing rooms are unmonitored. No more curtains then and snibbed doors please. The problem is whether people are genuine or if this gives unscrupulous people an opportunity to behave inappropriately.

Cindersdad Mon 13-Nov-17 06:35:34

As long as personal privacy is safeguarded this should not be an issue. It's not just in shops that this can be an issue. In most newer swimming pools there is only a single Unisex changing area but they all have cubicles, we all use the same pool so again not a big deal. Many smaller establishment cannot cater for separate facilities,

Anya Mon 13-Nov-17 06:40:14

paddyann totally agree with you.

Oldwoman70 Mon 13-Nov-17 07:54:49

I would have no problem with this as long as there were proper doors on the cubicles not, as at the moment, curtains which are not wide enough.