I see the EU Remainers' PROJECT FEAR is alive and well.

Better for your BP if you don’t read any rags.

Know thy enemy? That doesn’t make a lick of sense.
Is the editor your personal enemy?
It’s only a sensible piece of advice if it is on a personal level btw.

Know thy enemy lemon a sensible piece of advise.

The champagne is for democracy not for Brexit - you seem to have missed that point.

Don’t break out the champagne too soon, this doesn’t mean that Brexit is off the menu, and in fact Parliament is likely to agree the final deal, if it is anything like what has been agreed so far.
The Fail, The Heil....... are you becoming just a teensy bit fixated with the DM and all it prints ww it amuses me
That most on the forum wouldn't know what it said, including myself ( haven’t had newspapers for a long time)
If you and durhamjen didn’t keep telling us all that you have read in it!

Faisal Islam

Commented on the Heil

“Normalisation of the words traitor/treachery to mean simply someone whom disagrees with me”

Time we took back our language

Ben Bradshaw tweeted

One of the striking things was after the vote many of the ministers who supported remain were smiling and laughing

I know i poke fun at the Daily Mail, but if you look at their headlines, they are by no means comical or something we should dismiss simply as anti-democratic.

What they are is a demonisation of legally elected members of parliament - they did the same to the judges.

There is a clear intention to rabble rouse, with the targets being the MPs.

The Heil cannot escape its facist supporting roots. Who knows how many dodgy individuals it is encouraging in these headlines to commit heinous crimes. We have already lost one Joe Cox and many MPs have received death threats.

Criticism is one thing but this is on a wholly different level and should be stopped.

The Fail - that well known bastion of democracy, whose fascist tendency is well known has thrown a major hissy fit.

You lost - suck it up - oh! where have I heard that before!

Parliament is where our democracy lies and we will be wise to remember that. If this current, and hopefully short-lived, government does not realise that it is the fact we will continue to split the country.

The how, the when and the detail is up to Parliament - not the government, not a small number of the government who are holding them to ransom, and not the advisory 37%.

49%- 51% is not that much less than 48%-52%.
A greater % of MPs voted altogether, as there are 650 MPs. I presume the rest were paired on the vote, except for Sinn Fein who never vote.

One Tory MP who was spoken to by Williamson who used to be chief whip and is now defence secretary.

Did anyone abstain?

I think that people who don't like the result just have to suck it up, Primrose

I find it a bit shocking that 305 MPS were prepared to vote against Parliamentary sovereignty. Perhaps they're not in the right job...

305 vs 309 is much closer than the actual Brexit referendum. Don't you think they should have a 2nd vote next week in case some MPs change their mind?

The European Parliament's chief Brexit co-ordinator Guy Verhofstadt tweeted: "British Parliament takes back control. European and British Parliament together will decide on the final agreement. Interests of the citizens will prevail over narrow party politics. A good day for democracy."

Only Kate Hoey and Frank Field voted with the government.

ww: 'A day to remember - defeat for Trump and a triumph for the anti sleaze vote, and a defeat for government and a triumph for democracy.

It’s been a long time folks but there is a god after all!'

just come home late after a great evening out- and I just can't believe they have actually done it. A ma zing - and that D6, because we want our Parliamentary Democracy to endure, and the best for the UK. I have huge admiration for those Tory rebels who had the guts to stand for what they believe. I have not yet found out who amonf Labour had the guts to also stand - despite Corbyn's WHIPPING

they actively seek a bad outcome for the UK

Not just us, lemon, the Daily Express looks a bit pessimistic here:

Brexit SHOCK warning: Britain will be WORSE OFF out of the EU under ALL Brexit scenarios

A NEW Brexit report claims the United Kingdom will be economically worse-off "under most plausible scenarios" days after Theresa May struck deal with the European Union.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/891217/Brexit-news-latest-Rand-corporation-Brexit-update-UK-economy-gdp-EU-European-Union-video

Remainers aren't quite so surprised...

God moves in mysterious ways, lemon.

My niece lives in Alabama and they are cock-a-hoop. Perhaps this is a turning of the tide of people just people who just say what they want to hear rather than the truth.

Don't be daft - no one wants a bad deal for the UK or for things to get bad for everyone - that really would be cutting off noses! We all have family and friends living in the UK whether or not we ourselves do. - no one wants our children and grand children to have to live in poor conditions or have few opportunities. It is just that we see very different ways of getting a good or better life for everyone.
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So we should just roll over and be run over by the Brexit bus? It’s all very well to talk about delivering the ‘will of the people’, does May have to destroy democracy in order to do it ? Of course we don’t want the U.K. to be the laughing stock of the world. Every day in every way the brexshit fiasco gets more and wasteful and ridiculously expensive just to achieve a far far worse deal than we already have. We have to stand up and expose the failings of this useless government and their ridiculous policies.

I think this is the worst thing about some Remainers, not that they would prefer staying in the EU ( their choice) but that they actively seek a bad outcome for the UK and cheer on the EU in Brussels as ‘the good guys’.
They will say that they don’t of course, but every little gloating remark they make shows it to be so.Sad really.

.....just as you are predictable in wanting a bad result for Brexit ww btw

In wanting a good result for Brexit...you betcha!