I see the EU Remainers' PROJECT FEAR is alive and well.

.......and you are still going along the project fear route, believing every bit of ‘news’ and supposedly truths from any old source!

It seems that we are stuffed

So much for them needing us more than we need them!

I believe that when the reasonable suggestion was put forward that then needing us was neither rational nor factual those with their eyes and ears covered screamed project fear didn’t they?

"Theresa May’s hopes of securing a unique post-Brexit trade deal with the EU were under threat on Saturday night as Brussels said it was coming under international pressure to deny Britain special treatment.

After a week that saw May reach a deal with the EU that will allow Brexit talks to move forward on to future trade relations, EU officials insisted a bespoke deal more favourable to the UK than other non-EU nations was out of the question.

One EU source close to the talks said: “We have been approached by a number of [non-member] countries expressing concerns and making it clear that it would constitute a major problem for them if suddenly the UK were to get better terms than they get.”

The official said that once the UK is out of the single market and customs union in March 2019, there could be no replication of the terms of the current trading relationship, or anything close to it, and no special treatment."

Anyone surprised?

We will probably never find out what kind of deal Corbyn et al would have made.

The next scheduled election is after the Brexit deal is signed. Gove is talking rubbish. Yes, voters can get rid of the government that did the Brexit deal, but we'll still be out of the EU.

Unless there is a GE in the meantime before anything is ratified?
The candidate would have to stand for election on those promises, though, and I doubt they would succeed.

I don't know if I'm right here - but I wouldn't have thought that a Prime Minister after a General Election could really just change the deal with the EU as Gove says.

By the time of the next election, (2022?) the EU/UK deal should be firmly in place (by March 2019 at the latest). I thought Trade Deals were designed to last twenty years or more. (Although I suppose we might still be in an extended "transition phase".)

Margaret Thatcher and later David Cameron spent years negotiating tiny concessions from the EU.

No other country would trust us to sign new trade deals if we had just reneged on the new EU deal in such a spectacular way.

Gove must just be setting up his stall to oust Theresa May well before the next General Election is due.
Deja vu?

Gawd forbid- with Duncan Smith, Reese-Mogg, David Davis and their chronies

Suzied and Whitewave, I agree. I heard Gove this morning. How I understood it is that if voters are not happy with the present Brexit deal that Theresa May has secured voters can change the Brexit status to a hard Brexit at the next general election. That would mean bye bye Theresa May and – wait for it – hello Michael Gove!

I voted Labour in the last election as a protest against the govts desire to have a hard brexit.

I think it was ridiculous to state that we could use the next General Election to vote on the Brexit deal. The two main political parties are both divided over what sort of deal they want for a start so how would voting for either of them help us get whichever deal we preferred.
Plus, we don't vote in a General Election over just one issue, we vote our chosen way over domestic and social policies too.

Not all project fear, doom and gloom.

"1. Sales of ethical goods and services are valued at £81.3 billion.
2. The UK’s ethical market grew by 3.2% in 2016, whilst inflation averaged 0.64%.
3. Ethical Food & Drink sees a 9.7% growth as conventional foods struggle.
4. The value of consumer boycotts bounces back to over £2.5 billion.
5. Ethical Money returns to growth after a poor showing in the previous year.
6. 42% of us shopped locally in 2017 for environmental reasons, spending
an estimated total of £2.7 billion.
7. There was a 30% increase in vegetarianism in 2017. "

I have a feeling, however, that those who voted remain will be most pleased at this good news.

I expect he’s hoping it will be PM Gove

If it’s in a general election that we can change the deal, it must be with a different pm mustn’t it? May is hardly going to say vote for me and I’ll give you a different deal is she?

Gove got it wrong. And he's raised his eyebrows again just to show how silly he is.

infacts.org/gove-ignorant-lying-cant-rip-future-eu-deal/

What do you think; ignorant or lying?

The only other country out of Schengen was the Republic of Ireland!

I saw the link with the figures but can't find it now. Could you link it please. The Norway or Swiss option are totally based on free movement of people.

For those who say the UK did not have special concessions made to them, which other EU country was allowed to keep their own currency? Which other EU countries was allowed to keep out of Schengen?

I've read that, if we go with the Norway option it will take 100 years before we're better off financially. And this when we've only just paid off our WWII debt to America.

tegan snap!

The question I would like answered is this

If Gove has assured us that we can change Brexit does that mean we can change it no Brexit?

Gove is now saying there needs to be a vote on the final deal; could that include the fact that it would make sense economically to stay in? He must have thought either he or Johnson would be PM soon and must be so brassed off.

Seems it is Leavers frothing at the mouth - snowflakes - get over it- you won ... doh

I wonder who he blames for the universal credit mess.

Heard IDS this morning entirely blaming the EU for where we are

Clever isn’t it?