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use our grey power to force real affordable, safe houses to be built whoch won't kill our planet but actually save it!!

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peaches50 Fri 24-Nov-17 18:59:30

www.rtpi.org.uk/media/2262469/debate_30_mar_2017_janice_morphet_article.pdf

There's a quiet revolution going ahead with councils across the country quietly 'taking back control' from developers and finally using their powers to dictate house building in their areas, and who will get them. Instead of lining developers'shareholders' pockets, IF land owned by the church, the government, NHS, 'land bankers' etc is counted and made available, by coercion and COP if not willingly offered we could have a major revolution. Have a look at www.zedfactory.com/ who build green homes - no energy bills and enough energy to run an electric car! It's our children's and grandchildren's future and we are one world. So let's force change with petitions, scouting out abandoned homes and boarded up plots - and report them to our councils to do something about it. Who's with me? a petition?..... No one should be making a choice about 'eating or heating' it's criminal - and btw we'd need 11 nuclear power stations to provide the energy for the electric vehicles by 2040.. that's going to happen isnt it?!

durhamjen Thu 25-Jan-18 16:56:15

Well done, Wales. A good start to more social housing.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/wales-right-to-buy-formally-abolished/

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 22:28:24

How much would it cost, varian?
The thing about the timber frame houses in Gateshead is that they are cheap to buy, and quick to put up.

varian Wed 24-Jan-18 20:00:39

The ideal home would be peffect to live in and also look good and enhance its setting. If you had to choose which would matter most?

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 17:05:43

I said I haven't been in one of the houses !

I have been in the flats a few times. Once when they were first launched and again after the first few people moved in when they ran promotions and open days.

I pass them regularly and they look a bit of a mess.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:40:07

Have you been in one durhamjen? I have. 15.32

16.32 you say you haven't been in one, but you pass them?

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:36:48

2014. What matters is whether people look after them or not. Thay all appear to be student size flats to me.
You can't blame the builder for the condition people keep them in.

The walkways are because they are flats. How do you expect people to get in them?

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:33:18

www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/5-marigold-avenue/gateshead/ne10-0dp/34009103

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 16:26:20

I think that example was from several years ago durhamjen. I pass the estate regularly and they look a complete mess from the main road. Horrible metal walkways like prisons.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 16:23:28

The flats on the main photo are what dominates the development and were/are impossible to sell. most owned by housing associations these days. The houses in the picture look quite nice in the photo (presumably when new). I haven't been in one or even seen one as they weren't finished when I last visited. I know they only built a dozen or so of the intended houses as they just couldn't sell them.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:17:40

www.zoopla.co.uk/property/3-marigold-avenue/gateshead/ne10-0dp/28870330#tab-street

They don't look too bad to me. Perhaps it's because they are in Gateshead.
Similar places in London look just the same but people there like them.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:08:30

That photo is from your link, gillybob.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 15:55:47

They did come fully equipped inside (when new) and eventually (when they didn't sell) came with bicycles, holidays, sports equipment, gym memberships and crikey knows what else. I feel sorry for the handful of people that bought at the beginning as the empty flats started to look shabby and run down.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 15:49:47

I can't turn links into pictures but the flats in Gateshead (as shown in my link) are quite ugly. I have been in one or two of them and whilst they are quite nice inside they are very ugly outside. They look a cross between a prison block and a Butlins chalet.

I'm not sure where that picture is durhamjen?

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 15:45:00

No, I haven't been inside one of those ones. But this is no Butlin's chalet that I've ever seen.

However, my husband designed timber framed houses in the seventies when lots were needed. Our timber frame houses are very similar to Scandinavian ones. The difference is that in Scandinavia they buy houses on floor area, not on number of bedrooms.
People complain about brick houses and they complain about timber frame houses.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 15:34:52

goo.gl/images/zTJYqX

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 15:32:28

Have you been in one durhamjen? I have.

From the outside they look like Butlins chalets although they are nicer inside than you imagine, with some good design features.

Many of the mortgage companies refused to lend on what they referred to as "prefab" homes.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 15:19:37

It wasn't the buyers. They couldn't get mortgages because they came on market in 2008.
You must have gone to a smart Butlins if your chalets looked like that.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 13:40:36

The BoKlok houses they built in Gateshead were a bit of a disaster. No amount of incentives would persuade buyers.

Not surprised as they look like chalets in Butlins.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 11:33:00

www.24housing.co.uk/news/shelter-launches-new-social-housing-commission/

Hopefully they will get together with the government commission, and work twice as quickly to build more social housing.

durhamjen Tue 23-Jan-18 19:45:26

www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2018-01-22a.1.3

Parliamentary debate on it yesterday.

durhamjen Tue 23-Jan-18 16:12:01

This is disgraceful.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/government-slammed-over-shameful-post-grenfell-safety-stats/

Most of the tower blocks that have unsafe cladding are owned by councils or housing associations.

36 councils have asked the government for help, but not one has received any.

durhamjen Thu 18-Jan-18 16:33:11

www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-provide-permanent-shelter-and-housing-for-rough-sleepers

Over 133,000 signatures now. Please sign and share, if you agree with it, of course.

durhamjen Thu 18-Jan-18 15:50:23

This is ridiculous.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/five-london-housing-estates-are-empty-awaiting-regeneration/

Why have they been emptied when so many families are homeless?
Why are they not being regenerated, or the houses pulled down and being built on.
One statement at the end says that ONLY 6100 of them have been empty for over 6 months.
ONLY? They could have housed the homeless.

durhamjen Thu 11-Jan-18 11:30:53

www.24housing.co.uk/news/government-urged-to-invest-in-a-peoples-land-bank/

This sounds like a good idea, as it's land we own already.
The example of Persimmon is quite appalling.

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 14:28:37

www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/grand-designs-27000-eco-home-in-wales-burns-to-the-ground

Sad.