Prince Harry’s engagement

The RF, not RH.

Kate and William were an item for quite a long time, she did have a job but had the press following her so sensible girl stayed at home . The mocking of her as Waity Katie was nasty, they wanted to marry but there was much to think about, they were not going to marry, find jobs and buy a three bedroomed house. Yes they are all privileged, I get ratty about the cost of so many houses needing 24 hour a day police protection, but no way do I envy their lives .

I have said queenie is so wrong to have so much wealth and so many homes when we have homeless yet she cannot start paying for hostels to be built , she would be accused of supporting which every party was in power, so I have at times judged her unfairly.

Haven't looked at the court circular for such a long time , see how many engagements they all do.

I can certainly understand people objecting to the monarchy as an institution, and wanting a republic, but to hate people on a personal individual level because of who they are is unnecessary and deeply unpleasant. Bit like hating any group of people simply because of the situation they're born into!

They seem a nice enough young couple, and I hope they have a happy life together.
Having said that, I think that the Royals are spoiled to an enormous and rather unecessary degree.
It does seem unfortunate that so very much is spent on them all when our country is in such a distressed state.
It’s not their fault I suppose, so we must make the best of things and enjoy the show!

Is tasteless joking/name-calling (Waity Katie, clothes horse, etc) equal to hate? I'd say not. It's unpleasant but hate is far more than unpleasant.

There's also some truth in each of those sobriquets.

I'm now pondering whether it's actually a problem if someone hates the monarchy and its representatives. Why would it be worse than someone loving it/them? If you can 'allow' the latter, then you must 'allow' the formerjust to cover the full spectrum of human attitudes to such things.

On which profoundly philosophical note, I'm off to bed ?

Not necessarily what you say, but certainly how you say it. How do you say parasite nicely?!!!

How cruel, nasty sick, The Telegraph has experts! Giving their opinion on how long the marriage will last, one expert! Is a hand writing specialist another an astrologer, readers of their website have to pay to see what these experts! say.

Vile.

Baggs your posts are very......you!

Hate brings harm, love does not , hate hurts the hater ,love does not

On matters like a royal wedding Annie the press / media/social media gets worse and worse.

Lemon, it's as if this family have no feelings, cannot be hurt , cruel

Oh here we go again - NLS calling me a nasty piece of work is not free speech, it’s a personal attack which is against the guidelines but I won’t report it because it’s better left so people can judge you for what you are............

And * niggly* I don’t hate WK - I don’t pretend to know her like so many royalists do - I hate the institution of the monarchy and everything it stands for. She’s a classic example of all that is wrong with it. Clearly your posts show you are totally incapable of differentiating between the two issues. But do you know how to spew your bile at me?????

Anyone with any sense knows exactly what the subtext with MM is and will continue to be.

Why do I feel that if the RF paid for the wedding (which they are), bought the dress from a charity shop, held the reception in the local pub and gave everyone in the country £1,000 each - it would make no difference to the vitriol and dislike being expressed.

Never a truer word said Oldwoman!

Yes, it’s a fair bet oldwoman70

I think you're the one who spews bile. I don't call people whoever they are names or deride them simply because of who they are,
Oh FGS, experts, so called, deciphering how long this marriage will last! How hateful is that, I give up. As for people paying for this garbage?!! I'm sure I don't know!!!

Niggly,i was shocked to read what the Telegraph had done, so cruel.

Well we’ve all had our say. Most of us are happy for them and wish them well, whatever our reservations might be. The predictable few are full of bitterness, as they seem to be most of the time ...

I'm now pondering whether it's actually a problem if someone hates the monarchy and its representatives. Why would it be worse than someone loving it/them? If you can 'allow' the latter, then you must 'allow' the formerjust to cover the full spectrum of human attitudes to such things.

Oooh Baggs, very deep and philosophical {grin] but yes, fair point.

I am not sude where I stand. Part of me envies Royal privilege and wealth. Do they appreciate just how lucky they are? No headaches, worries or budgeting for Harry and his fiancee as they plan their wedding, and no washing up to do after they 'cooked roast chicken' in their 'cottage' <cough> in Kensington Palace. It's a different, very privileged world and part of me thinks it very unfair that Royalty should be so pampered.

I'd like to see us paring down the Royal family when the Queen dies. I like her, and I do not dislike any of the royal family but the institution is at odds with society. No way do I want a republic (Blair or someone of his ilk for President - no thank you very much!) but I do think the Royals have become even more like two-a-penny celebrities of late, jet setting off everywhere and hanging out in the most exclusive of places. If they are going to be royal then they need to distance themselves imo - BUT it isn't their fault we have a prying press and social media intrusion. I would like to see some of the expense of keeping up the charade be spread around to better, more worthy causes.

Having said that I wish the couple well. They seem very in love. I am not convinced they are well-suited, but what do I know? I like Harry so I am glad he has found happiness.

I agree Stella we shouldn't be paying for Royal weddings with the country being in austerity and a lots of people are struggling they have enough money to fund their own wedding

We're not paying. HM is out of her own money.

Wonder what will be chosen, Edward is set to be Duke of Edinburgh when his father dies , can't really see them choosing Hereford , Sussex ? Not right really.

Something Welsh?
Or not?

Oh my goodnes, it has begun, Meghan has to be baptised ,then confirmed and then become a British Citizen, I wonder if she knows what she is letting herself in for. I hope they will both be very happy, they seem to suit each other.

I would like to see some of the expense of keeping up the charade be spread around to better, more worthy causes.
what's the betting that, if we had an elected President, the system would cost even more.
I can't see a President walking around turning off lights in empty rooms or putting up with a leaky roof.
And, although many people in this country seem to despise the Monarchy, there are millions around the world who just love ours.