Trump plumbs new depths

I have no intention of answering your question in the way you want me to, POGS, because I don't think there's much logic involved in these decisions, just estimations of self interest. It's currently not in the interests of either May or Trump to expose the POTUS to embarrassing demonstrations.

Whether or not it is in the interests of the UK depends on where you stand on Brexit (sorry, it has to be involved) as some people don't want to be making supplicants' trade deals with the US which mean accepting their lower standards and some people do.

Because trisher leaving the EU was decided by a legal and democratic referendum ( as you know) whereas people ( some people) deciding to say that they don’t want the POTUS to visit here is neither, but simply their own views.
Diplomacy dictates that he will have to visit here at some point, just as he has visited many other countries.

Maizie d

Not b@@#£# Brexit again. You don't believe in 'the will of the people' and Brexit.

How would we know what the 'will of the people' would be?

You are not answering the question:-

" Why are Merkel, Macron et al not viewed in the same light as Theresa May?"

Well, if 'the will of the people' can prevail with Brexit why can't it prevail when 'the people' make it pretty clear that they don't want him here?

Why do you think Trump was asked and subsequently to visited :-

France
Germany
Italy
Poland
Israel
Palestine
Saudi Arabia
Vatican City
Belgium
Japan
South Korea
China
Vietnam
The Phillippines

Why are Merkel, Macron et al not viewed in the same light as Theresa May?

I have no appetite for Trump the man but I can not understand why after hosting Leaders from many countries that have serious dubious qualities the President of the United States is being singled out.

Politics is a game of diplomacy and so far it appears the French and Germans understand that better than 'some' in the UK.

Anybody would think we are always right but Aung San Suu Kyi has proved a point about being blinded by beliefs has she not.

There’s a growing theory that he actually thought Britain First was similar to his philosophy of America First.

Well, that's what I thought when it first happened which just shows how stupid he is - he is a loose cannon and is no listening to his advisers unless they are equally stupid.

He's not coming here any time soon:

US diplomats have dropped plans for Donald Trump to conduct a visit to Britain in January amid a war of words between the two countries’ leaders.

Mr Trump, the US president, had been pencilled in for a ‘working visit’ in the first month of 2018 to formally open America’s new London embassy.

The trip, a scaled down version of a state visit with no meeting with the Queen, was intended to allow Mr Trump to come to the UK while avoiding the mass protests a full state visit would likely trigger.

However, The Telegraph can reveal that the trip has been pushed into the long grass, with no new date in the diary picked.

I can't read any further as it's paywalled, but that's good enough

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/30/donald-trumps-working-visit-uk-dropped-tensions-theresa-may/

Mind you, there are a few disappointed people on twitter; they had Plans

I don't think that the fact that it wasn't going to be a State Visit would have made much difference to the scale of the protests...

oh my radical nan - he is an old man who happens to be the President of the USA - and has a massive influence on the world as a whole. An old man with the finger on the nuclear button ...

I actually watched Question Time last night - because I wanted to hear what Yanis Varoufakis had to say- his condemnation of Trump's BF tweets was clear. And I was very happy to see that the vast majority of the people of Scarborough present, of all ages, Brexiters or reemainers, left or right or in the middle- agreed that 'normalising hatred' and this for the UK and not even the USA - is NOT right or anodine- at all, as Chuka Ummuna eloquently said:

www.facebook.com/BBCQuestionTime/videos/1834377546575962/

Trump is a dreadful man, my cat would make a better president.

I didn’t say all fascist are thick. However there is a kind of stereotypical dumb, skin head type of fascist that one often sees on these marches. Trump strikes me as having more in common with them than those who might have some higher level thinking skills.

MM posted her support for HC on social media and made clear her views on DT. She stopped using social media a year ago as would be expected. I don’t think for one minute that DT will remove the tweets - he’s not wired like that is he? How TM must be regretting that SV invite and HM is probably not happy to be embroiled in this - given what was known about DT by the time he was elected who on earth thought a SV was acceptable compared to a normal political visit? It was absolutely unprecedented and I think Palace advisers as well as TM should hang their heads in shame. I suppose it was all part of the collective madness that is Brexit.

I find the idea that all fascists are thick a very worrying one. It is no more the truth than all of any other political persuasion are thick. It is just a political view of the world, how it is and how it should be run.

She is not a Trump supporter mcem. Neither I expect is Harry. However, the RF weddings include their 'work' for the country. The Queen has met or hosted some terrible despots in her time and seems to manage the necessary diplomacy well.
I'm fairly sure protocol won't mean the Trumpster gets an invite. What will be interesting is whether he bows to pressure and removes the hate filled and possibly illegal tweets. The man is a dangerous buffoon. He makes Boris look statesmanlike.

I know very little about Meghan Markle but have seen reports of her humanitarian work abroad.
Seems to me she's unlikely to be a Trump supporter and probably would not want him at her wedding.

He may have imagined Britain First was like his America first philosophy. The scary thing is, he's probably right.

Just not jump

A facist or jump plain thick? Of course the two tend to go hand in hand.

There’s a growing theory that he actually thought Britain First was similar to his philosophy of America First.

The man is a moron.

He said that Britain First was hateful, but never criticised trump. It would have been better if he'd pretended not to know, rather than do that.

I haven't seen anything Jen. They may have gagged him.

Has Boris commented on trump's tweets?

I wouldn't be surprised if he does come eventually - if he has not been impeached by the time we get round to it. Other than Boris, we have a history of being incredibly good at dealing with difficult situations, giving people just the right welcome while staying above the nonsense. I have no doubt we could do it again if it where necessary for the sake of the relationship between, not Trump and May but Britain and the USA.

Well either way, a SV will be the least of anyone's problems?

but it's not the blowing up, it's the nuclear fall-out.

Or perhaps ...... we can live in hope that he may be impeached or something.

I am absolutely convinced that he will not be invited to the wedding and secondly that at least for 2018 there will be no SV. Who knows after that - he may well l have blown us all up by then

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