Boris Johnson at his best. Terrorism speech.

While I was listening to the speech I read a few of the comments that popped up alongside. None of the ones I read said anything pertinent; they were just slagging Johnson off in who-not-what style without even a smidgeon of reference to what he was saying.

wills well you’re certainly not in a contributing anything useful but I’ll just make personal attacks mood tonight

Projections, projections, project fear. I’m not a JC fan either, but like many others I think they’d find it hard to do a worse job than the current shower.

after the disater that has been Teresa May ..we have Boris to look forward to.God help us all if he ends up PM ..between him and Trump we can certainly see the end of the world.Seperated at birth? Looks like that to me

I m with you all the way there Paddtann

I see Boris has been packed off to Iran to sort out the problems he caused for Nazanin Ratcliffe.

Very convenient that he's out of the way while May is negotiating with Tusk and Foster tonight.

None of the ones I read said anything pertinent; they were just slagging Johnson off in who-not-what style without even a smidgeon of reference to what he was saying

Yes, exactly Baggs. I agree with lemon that Boris is better with a speech than he is when improvising, but there is no doubt he is a learned man.

This is what worries me about present left wing opposition. (I was a Labour supporter until Blair.) There seems to be blanket HATRED of anything and anyone not onside. I have never known a political climate like it where people opposing the Conservative government spew such venom towards anyone who is not left wing.

I consider myself a floating voter really. My background makes me Labour but the reality is the party has been hijacked by blinkered people who seem so partisan that they refuse to recognise pulling together and supporting each other and want division. Any politician from any party making the speech Boris made today regarding the way we must look at terrorism would have won my admiration. Sadly...that sort of fairness now seems missing from British politics.

Tories and Labourites used to stand together side by side, drinking together, socialising together, respecting the rights of others to vote as they saw fit. That's gone.

And it's evident here, on this forum, isn't it?

after the disater that has been Teresa May

That is YOUR opinion paddyann. Her time in office has been one of the most arduous and demanding. As a remainer she is delivering Brexit for the people and I admire her for her unwavering stance on that.

She cannot win because not only is she working with EU politicians who have no appetite for us breaking away, leaving the Union - so there is emnity there and she is also facing the wrath of politicians who want us to stay in the EU.

She doesn't have the support she should have in that now we ARE leaving the EU, we should be looking out for the interests of the UK. Many politicians are more concerned with the EU's stand so the vipers in the nest (who are representing UK constituencies ) are delighting in the hard time she is being given both at home and in Brussels.
Much reporting is also skewed and biased government bashing.

A week in politics is a very long time yet we seem to be picking up on the minutiae of EVERYTHING concerning Brexit, (much of it inconsequential) second by second and the criticism of her comes second by second too.

I have never known a PM have such a gruelling, laborious workload and such a thankless task. I don't know how she sleeps at night. She has my admiration.

Everyone agrees Boris gives a good speech. I understand he is amusing at dinner parties too. He does have good qualities. He does get credit where it is due. Doesn’t mean we have to forget his less praiseworthy actions and attributes. Same with TMay I do feel some sort of admiration for her on one level, doesn’t mean I think her “achievements” so far are anything to write home about. I await news of her successes this weekend but I’m not holding my breath.

Has anyone mentioned forgetting Boris's less praiseworthy actions and attributes? Or May's political failings?

Giving one piece of praise about one thing a person has done is not equal to forgetting everything else about them.

There is no need to swing from one extreme to the other—complete praise and adulation v complete annoyance and dislike. Most people are somewhere in the middle, accepting that everyone has faults and everyone has good points. Even our best leaders in the past, ones who, according to history, achieved loads for the country were, to put it mildly, decidedly imperfect. As are we all.

Bottoms! I like Boris. I like his wicked sense of humour, and cringe at the number of times he manages to put his foot in it - and I missed a good speech? Particularly it seems on a sensitive subject? When/where was it?

This is what worries me about present left wing opposition. (I was a Labour supporter until Blair.) There seems to be blanket HATRED of anything and anyone not onside. I have never known a political climate like it where people opposing the Conservative government spew such venom towards anyone who is not left wing.
I listened to some University students from Canterbury yesterday, speaking on Radio 4 who said it was far more difficult coming out as a Conservative supporter than coming out as gay.

I heard that too. It’s worrying.

suzied I don't think, if what you say about Boris as Mayor of London is true, that it is unusual. So far I think that this whole mayoral system is a complete waste of taxpayers' money and a shambles.

I have never known a political climate like it where people opposing the Conservative government spew such venom towards anyone who is not left wing.
I think that is true, some of the sheer vitriol is breathtaking. Quite worrying for the future democracy of this country too.

I think that is true, some of the sheer vitriol is breathtaking.

I suggest that you look at some rightwing stuff with leftwing eyes, Jalima. I think you'll find that the 'vitriol' flows in both directions.

And if anyone thinks that what they see on GNet is 'vitriol' then they're leading very sheltered lives.

I agree with you wholeheartedly Day6. No Prime Minister in living memory has had such a thankless task and suffered so much sustained vitriol as Mrs May has for month in month out. I can't imagine anyone on the Labour side having the tenacity or courage to relentlessly soldier on in the face of so much adversity. Labour are full of criticism (the easy bit) but not so hot on solutions (the difficult bit!) Mrs May has both my support and admiration.

I think I must have missed another speech.

A man who has been put in high office makes a speech without putting his foot in it. This is the level the Conservatives have sunk to that they are applauding the fact that a simple speech is given and it is not done badly or inefficiently. Things in the party are generally so awful that their supporters feel this deserves a thread of its own!

The rest of the politicians must protect us from this cruel, incompetent and self-serving party.

...who said it was far more difficult coming out as a Conservative supporter than coming out as gay

Why is that surprising?

Because in the past ( recent past!) Nobody had any problems about saying if asked, that they supported the Conservatives.
Of course, coming out as gay isn’t as hard as it was either.
I think it shows that lots of people feel this way, that they will be torn to shreds on forums or anywhere public if they say the Conservative or Tory word.Very few on Gransnet will for a start.

We are all plenty old enough to see ruling political parties come and go, come election time, but there was never the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth like there is now after a GE.

It was both ironic and rhetorical Lemon's. No answer required. I can quite see why someone would not want to admit to holding the views espoused by the current Tory party.

It may have been ironic and rhetorical GG but we have never before been in a climate nationally of so much hate expressed by people about other people who hold dissimilar views.It’s sad.

Who hates? Tory views have pushed more people into worse poverty than we have seen for many decades. However, if people continue to commit these acts or enable those who do I certainly despise their choice of how they treat others.

I try not to go around despising others for their choice of political party, even those who support the three stooges on the opposition benches ( Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbot)
Each to their own.