Boris Johnson at his best. Terrorism speech.

dj I don't think you heard the speech we're talking about. I think all those quotes come from a magazine article written after the 7/7 bombings in 2005.

“The Iraq war did not create the problem of murderous Islamic fundamentalists, though the war has unquestionably sharpened the resentments felt by such people in this country, and given them a new pretext.

“The Iraq war did not introduce the poison into our bloodstream but, yes, the war did help to potentiate that poison.

“And whatever the defenders of the war may say, it has not solved the problem of Islamic terror, or even come close to providing the beginnings of a solution.

“You can’t claim to be draining the swamp in the Middle East when the mosquitoes are breeding quite happily in Yorkshire.”

Boris is not a ‘polished’ performer, but that doesn’t mean he is useless/ clueless or any other ‘less’ that people often throw at him.Generally speaking though, I think he may have been better in another role instead of Foreign Secretary.

Except, of course, I think we are part of the problem.
Selling arms to Saudi Arabia so they can bomb Yemen is part of the problem, and there's no getting away from that fact.

Certainly not whoever wrote his speech about Nazanin - or if it was, Boris has learnt his lesson and stuck to the script.

Actually, suzied, given how rare it is, it is a bit if a shock to come across a good political speech. That was my point. I don't remember anything horrific in the one in question. Do you?

So do I.

I wonder who wrote it?

Shock! horror! Politician gives good speech!

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I think good speeches from politicians of all flavours are actually quite rare and that that's why people who thought the Boris speech in question was good said so. It isn't only Tories who think it was good.

Assumptions Lemon? - pot and kettle. Your assumptions that anyone with a social conscience or anyone who is a remainer- is a hardent Corbyn supporter and ultra left winger- really shows YOUR ignorance and prejudice.

I'm not a fan of any current politician that I know of.
Not that I am a fan I hasten to add - and I would add that ET would not get my vote either.

mary one semi-sensible speech does not a future leader make All the more amazing that Corbyn was elected leader. You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time etc .....

Back to Boris becoming masterful and sensible

meliza - what because of the three stooges remark?

lemongrove is absolutely right, they are like the three stooges and the sooner the Labour Party comes to its senses and appoints the likes of Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn etc to the forefront the sooner they will be in power at the next GE.

Bloody hell lemon what are you on?

I try not to go around despising others for their choice of political party, even those who support the three stooges on the opposition benches ( Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbot)
Each to their own.

Who hates? Tory views have pushed more people into worse poverty than we have seen for many decades. However, if people continue to commit these acts or enable those who do I certainly despise their choice of how they treat others.

It may have been ironic and rhetorical GG but we have never before been in a climate nationally of so much hate expressed by people about other people who hold dissimilar views.It’s sad.

It was both ironic and rhetorical Lemon's. No answer required. I can quite see why someone would not want to admit to holding the views espoused by the current Tory party.

We are all plenty old enough to see ruling political parties come and go, come election time, but there was never the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth like there is now after a GE.

Because in the past ( recent past!) Nobody had any problems about saying if asked, that they supported the Conservatives.
Of course, coming out as gay isn’t as hard as it was either.
I think it shows that lots of people feel this way, that they will be torn to shreds on forums or anywhere public if they say the Conservative or Tory word.Very few on Gransnet will for a start.

...who said it was far more difficult coming out as a Conservative supporter than coming out as gay

Why is that surprising?

I think I must have missed another speech.

A man who has been put in high office makes a speech without putting his foot in it. This is the level the Conservatives have sunk to that they are applauding the fact that a simple speech is given and it is not done badly or inefficiently. Things in the party are generally so awful that their supporters feel this deserves a thread of its own!

The rest of the politicians must protect us from this cruel, incompetent and self-serving party.

I agree with you wholeheartedly Day6. No Prime Minister in living memory has had such a thankless task and suffered so much sustained vitriol as Mrs May has for month in month out. I can't imagine anyone on the Labour side having the tenacity or courage to relentlessly soldier on in the face of so much adversity. Labour are full of criticism (the easy bit) but not so hot on solutions (the difficult bit!) Mrs May has both my support and admiration.