Corbyns Inertia

For me inviting the IRA leaders to Westminster whilst many were grieving after the IRA bombing shows a man incapable of feeling anyone's pain, it was cruel and cannot be excused under the pretence of working for peace.

The Daily .Mirror has lead with a homeless man who died in a shelter over the holidays, the female who tweeted the story spoke of his death, followed by Corbyn had visited the shelter etc, she used a corpse to boost Corbyn as the caring man , shame on her.

Talking may bring about a compromise and a peaceful solution.
I agree trisher but the time and place is also crucial to such talks and negotiations - and he spoke to only one side so would not have formed a balanced view.
Corbyn was a backbench MP and not even speaking on behalf of his own party anyway.

Andrew Gwynne has been an MP since 2005, and was PPS to three MPs, including Ed Balls and Jacqui Smith.
He has been in the shadow cabinet since 2010, including transport and health.

Considering people object to both benches being London-centric, I would think that Long-Bailey and Gwynne both being from Manchester would be appreciated. Obviously another conflict in certain people's minds.

What does 'cosy up' mean. You want Corbyn to been seen as doing something we should not respect - hence "cosy-up"
Inviting them for tea at the seat of Government just after the atrocious attempt to murder the British Government
could be thought of as quite 'cosy' as their smiles in the photo confirmed.
Perhaps I should say'smirks' - although I will say that Corbyn does look rather uncomfortable as if to doubt his own actions.
If a meeting between a backbencher and terrorists just after that event could be considered an attempt to negotiate peace so soon after the bombing then that was not the place for it.
It was seen by most at the time as a crass attempt to rub the noses of the Government in their own blood and does not earn Corbyn any respect.

Even my dyed-in-the-wool Labour family agree with that view, that is why they have misgivings about Corbyn and his allies - and even though they long for another Labour government.

Rebecca Long-Bailey is 38 years old and is a qualified solicitor. She has specialised in commercial law, and particularly NHS contracts. Before going to university she worked behind the counter in a pawn shop.
That sounds like a resonably varied career before she came into politics.
It's strange that those who complain about MPs not having experience are the same ones who complain about career politicians.
Maybe they should sort their own minds out first.

Lemon I read an interesting article recently about the sort of smokescreens Labour politicians, far left ones, Momentum and keyboard warriors produce as facts (thanks to social media) to promote Corbyn and marginalise moderate Labour MPs. I'll try and find it.

It was written at the time of the Labour leadership fiasco, when Corbyn was up against Smith and the majority of Labour MPs had refused to work with Corbyn. 2016?

How quickly we forget about that huge crisis in the Labour Party and the way in which the far left have split it - and don't seem to care. Many moderate Labour supporters want nothing to do with the present far-left regime.

Corbyn was given a leg up by May when she called for an election. That was his recent rise to prominence - through the back door of a Conservative cock-up.

Let's not forget that he was more or less in the wilderness and fighting to convince anyone who cared that he could lead the party.

Now Momentum and the youth brigade at Labour would have us believe he's the second coming!

Most of us haven't forgotten his shambolic rise to prominence and most of us appreciate his position is precarious. Most Labour back benchers have to remain silent or lose their political life such is the presence of Momentum and their intimidating tactics within the Labour corridors of power.

A very weak shadow cabinet , Rebecca Long Baily only come to Westminster in 2015 Thornberry has held five posts since 2015 . Andrew Gwyne has only been in the shadow cabinet since 2016 . Not a stable or experienced shadow cabinet

Hmmm...well, try googling something along the lines of ‘do ordinary Labour voters want Corbyn to be PM’ or variations of that, see what you get.

I'm and ordinary voter Lemon; one who doesn't need you to interpret my views. I don't think it "has to be said" that your views are biased - we have clearly seen that. How then do you speak for all these people? Where are you suggesting we "look it up". If you mean the polls, just how accurate were they the last time? At this point it is just your view.

OMG how many in the Cons wants May to remain as PM - and how many on the front bench have been sacked or had to resign, and the rest have their reputations in tatters now?

Which is why no a single one of you has even attempted to reply on the reshuffle - because there is practically no-one ...

Not at all sure about it being ‘great’ GG as it also means inexperience.He has had so many changes, people resigning from the shadow cabinet.
It has to be said, that so many ordinary voters ( outside Labour membership and Momentum) do not want to see Corbyn as PM. That is not just my view btw. If in doubt look it up.
I think his time may have ‘peaked’ now though, especially if there is no GE on the cards for years.

why do you think there are so many new faces on the front Opposition bench

Isn't it great - lots of the younger generation being prepared for power. I notice May is following the trend slowly (very slowly).

I don't. I know quite a few others my age who would like to see Corbyn in number 10.

You may "think" lemongrove that don't mean it's true.

Anybody our age has deep reservations about letting Corbyn anywhere near Number Ten!

You have to be joking.

Emily Thornberry? Jon Trickett? Andrew Gwynne? Barry Gardiner? Rebecca Long-Bailey? Angela Rayner? Jon Ashworth? Debbie Abrahams?

Seem quite effective to me.

Keir Starmer? Seems one of the best to me.

About half of those Labour MP’s in Parliament I think trisher why do you think there are so many new faces on the front Opposition bench, he hasn’t got the best people to work with him.

GG I did understand what you meant - my reply was to other posters who accused Mandela of being a terrorist.

Can you name these MPs lemongrove or are you simply raking up a discussion that was had some time ago?

Can you explain why so very many Labour MP’s don’t want anything to do with him?
Why people up and down the country do not see him as PM material?
Of course, Socialists are prepared to overlook his iffy past to get him into power, that is obvious.The majority of people in the UK are not Socialists.

"Anybody our age has deep reservations about letting Corbyn anywhere near Number Ten!"

No, some do, some don't

Does nobody get the difference?
Those at the top had to do all sorts behind the scenes, but Corbyn was inviting IRA killers to Westminster to tea after awful bombings.He had no power and no reason to seek them out.

She was the PM for Heavens sake!

Anybody our age has deep reservations about letting Corbyn anywhere near Number Ten!
Many Labour MP’s feel the same.