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MaizieD Fri 22-Dec-17 13:50:52

£490 million wasted spent on changing the colour of our passports. Which we could have done at any time in the last 30 years. Burgundy wasn't obligatory; not every EU country has a burgundy passport.

How many more £millions is this futile Brexit exercise going to cost the UK?


www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-passports-go-back-iconic-11736353

Somewhat ironic that the new blue is very similar to the colour of the EU flag...

suzied Wed 07-Feb-18 20:08:19

We knew that the wealthier remain areas would be less affected than the more deprived Brexit voting areas, I wonder if some Brexit voters believed the lie that Brexit would mean the end of austerity, as we would be “saving”so much money out of the EU. Of course the really wealthy Brexiteers will be fine - less regulation, more opportunities for tax avoidance etc.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 20:06:18

According to the other place the DUP was at the EFTA meeting today, which puts it in (at the moment) direct conflict with the government.

Tegan2 Wed 07-Feb-18 19:57:51

Unfortunately it might take something like Nissan to leave this country to bring everyone to their senses. Aren't Unilever thinking about relocating? [which would be sad as that is a remain area I believe].

Welshwife Wed 07-Feb-18 19:30:05

I think they are even more worried now than for the last few months - how many more companies will take their work elsewhere till people start to believe and realise.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 19:29:47

Guardian outlines part of the December 2017 agreement made and signed off between the government and EU.

Paragraph 49 of the agreement states, “the U.K. will maintain full alignment with those rules of the customs union, which now or in the future support the all-island economy and the protection of the 1998 (Good Friday) agreement.

No one in the government is able to reconcile the above signed agreement and leaving the customs union.
The Irish Government, tired of being patronised will not let the U.K. government off the hook.

If the U.K. government rejects the December agreement, it rejects any deal with the EU.

Tegan2 Wed 07-Feb-18 19:07:50

Well Nissan were against brexit from the start even though the leave campaign put in their leaflet that Nissan supported them#dirtytricks

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 19:04:51

Japan has been worried from the very start about Brexit - Nissan etc looms large and whom will be very affected.

Anyone seen the papers published by the EU about the food industry? Ooh Er! I wonde& how many farmers and small food exporters have read them.

Welshwife Wed 07-Feb-18 18:53:15

I saw a report today that Japan has requested an urgent meeting with the Govt.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 18:51:41

Not only by leaving we will shoot off our foot, we will shoot our leg off as well and disable ourselves for years to come. Most of us on here will never see the end of the downturn.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 18:44:24

Just looking at the figures.

The absolute irony is that London who voted remain and wanted Brexit least of all, is set to suffer economically least of all.

The North West who seemed to want it most will suffer the most.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 15:56:06

Faisal Islam

More leaks from the Brexiters

NI will have a drop of 12% in GDP after brexit no deal

North East England 16% drop, with no deal and 11% drop with a comprehensive trade deal.

varian Wed 07-Feb-18 15:53:02

Rachel Sylvester writes (in The Times) that a second Brexit poll, which once seemed politically out of the question, is now moving into the realms of the possible. Nobody wants a re-run of the divisive and depressing 2016 referendum, but momentum is slowly but surely gathering behind the idea of giving the people the chance to approve or reject the prime minister’s deal. She points out that the British people had no facts about Brexit when they voted for it. Once they have the details of our future relationship with the EU, they should have the right to decide what they think about it. Nobody knows what the result would be, but at least the question would then be resolved.

Tegan2 Wed 07-Feb-18 12:40:38

Good article by Caitlin Moran in The Times supplement 27/1 [which I'm afraid I don't know how to do a link to], saying how social media has given many unpleasant people a voice and giving carte blanche to those who want to behave in a racist way [have just been told of another case of someone who was followed by several youths after speaking Russian to a friend in a pub; only escaped being beaten up by telling them he was semi famous and the press would have a field day with them]. There is a 'brexit' film at our cinema next week which we need to go to [there is a discussion afterwards] but I'm dreading having to sit through a film where so many brexiters give their views, even though I do need to hear what they say. It will be interesting to see just who turns up to see this film but as it's at an indie cinema part financed by the EU and showing many films part financed by Europe I think I can guess which side the audience will be supporting. Not looking forward to it, though...

Jalima1108 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:15:19

^ I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour of the passport, and I am furious at the waste of money in changing it.^
It is Fake news knickas63!

Welshwife Wed 07-Feb-18 09:50:58

I think that the cost of changing the passport might just be a silly rumour - when we went from the blue passport to the red ones the blue one was still valid till it ran out and then was changed for the red one.
A similar thing may well happen next time so there would then be no extra cost. The passport office could not cope with the work if everyone needed to change within a tight timescale.

jura2 Wed 07-Feb-18 09:46:49

It would be really interesting to know your reasons knickas63.

knickas63 Wed 07-Feb-18 09:43:51

I am a 'Brexiter' and I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour of the passport, and I am furious at the waste of money in changing it. I had my reason to vote Brexit, none of which were little Englander Xenophobic.

Welshwife Wed 07-Feb-18 09:36:59

Let’s hope that is the case rather than leaving while totally unprepared and no other systems in place.

durhamjen Wed 07-Feb-18 09:33:20

That's okay, Welshwife. It means we won't be able to leave.

Welshwife Wed 07-Feb-18 09:30:34

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/07/government-has-been-too-slow-in-preparing-for-brexit?CMP=share_btn_link

A little article I found this morning. It is beginning to feel more and more as if we are living in a nightmare.

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 09:26:48

Anyone listen to Bernard Jenkin this morning on Brexit.

God almighty, how and why are the Brexiters still so bloody ignorant!!

Jenkin
“It would be utterly preserves for the EU to impose tariffs between the U.K. and the EU, and I don’t think that they would be so destructive as to impose that”

WTO - you need to read the rules Jenkin before you mislead/lie to the public.
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Welshwife Tue 06-Feb-18 21:52:43

I know someone living near there and they told me about it - you are all saying exactly what I thought when I heard.
A lot of work has been going on at the port recently.

mostlyharmless Tue 06-Feb-18 21:48:20

The Sacred White Cliffs of Dover???
I don't think the Brexit crowd would like that!

jura2 Tue 06-Feb-18 21:37:45

oh no it isn't!?!?! maybe they will blast off the cliffs ?

whitewave Tue 06-Feb-18 21:22:29

It isn’t very big there is it?

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