More Brexit lunacy

They are building a container port at Dover - to the West of the ferry port I understand - getting ready for long distance trade by the look of it!

yep, no state schools, no NHS, no bedroom tax, no unemployment...... they will be alright Jack and all.

These brainwashed idealogues on the extreme right of the Tory party simply do not care how much damage they might inflict on our country. Their families will be protected

I suppose they could override objections or do compulsory purchase, but a most provocative step. Sounds like an own goal (good).

Yes for lorry parking. I caught it on the evening tv programme but no details. I sort of got the I impression that it was the government but I might be wrong. I do wonder whether it will be wishful thinking as there was loads of protest last time they tried putting in a lorry park and I think they simply couldn’t get planning permission, but I suppose government could override that if it is deemed in the national interest.

What a mess.

Just bought a load of land in Kent, whitewave? Who? Kent CC? For lorry parking?!

It’s certainly topsy turvey whitewave. It’s all made for some strange bedfellows, so to speak!

jura the Tories have just bought a load of land in Kent- they know what is ahead.

You would think that they would have plans for the borders as well with regard to infrastructure etc.

So far- zilch.

Say away nightowl

It is all tops turvey though.

The Tories have traditionally be known as the party for business and the economy.

Business is tearing its hair out and they are always failing the economy by their wn goals and standards.

Funny old world.

On Farming Today today

2 minutes on each lorry = 17 mile permanent queue at Dover

Sorry just had to say that

She may be making the right noises about Brexit but she’s a nightmare constituency MP

Soubry posted

This is why we must reject the ideologically driven hard Brexit and put our economy first.

CBI report
Frictionless borders are businesses top priority
Hardening of the Irish border is not an option for business
Trade is about far more than trade deals
Proposals put forward by the government are no good for business
Alongside a deep relationship with the SM the U.K. must stay in the CU.

When we spoke to Anna last year she told us what she thought of Boris et al so I'm not surprised to hear this. Whatever her voting record, I do know how passionate she is about the EU and I hold her in the highest esteem.

53% think Brexit is going badly
16% think it is going well

Anna Soubry has called upon Theresa May to 'sling out' those she called the "hard Brexiteers" in the Party. She said the front bench was in hock to 35 ideological leave supporters. She insisted she wouldn't stay in a party taken over by people like Jacob Rees Mogg and Boris Johnson.

I wonder if this is another step towards the formation of a more centre party or if Brexit alone is not enough to do that. I cannot see the Conservative Party surviving this time although I realise that feeling may come from my hope to see the end of very right-wing Conservative parties in power. The "Hard Brexiteers" have always been a problem and they seem to have so much control for the numbers they have in parliament. If they do get control the Tories they will, in turn, have problems with the more Europhile, less right wing members.

Perhaps Brexit is not enough to break them up. However, it is also showing who are to the far-right of Conservatism with all it's neoliberal overtones. When this group includes JRM with his social views that are so far to the right they move into the unsavoury area of politics, I can see even the idea of what 'Conservatism' actually is becoming a split within the party.

Pffft! Means nothing.

What does a bit of poverty matter compared with the delerious joy engendered by leaving the evil EU?

OK information from Davis’s department. Remember these are the assessments produced by our expert civil service who have supported each government and stood us in such good stead for ever.

NO DEAL ——- WTO RULES ——-

8% lower GDP
£158bn loss per year
2,800,00 fewer jobs.

COMPREHENSIVE FREE TRADE AGREEMENT
OUTSIDE OF CU AND SM
5% loss GDP
£99bn loss per year
1,750,000 fewer jobs.

SOFT

Inside single market through EEA, but no part in law making

2% loss GDP
£39bn loss per year
700,00 jobs loss

Remain in the EU
No jobs loss
GDP STABLE AND EXPECTED TO INCREASE ALONG WITH EXPECTED RISE IN GROWTH WITH EU
Cost? £9bn per year

...oh, and the reason I go to the sauna at night is that the conversation in the afternoon with the older lot is even more racist....

Well, I've just spent an hour in a sauna with a group of blokes, most of them young, who told me that the EU were responsible for all the immigration to this country and we had no control over it. They wouldn't believe me when I said we could have implemented controls over the years. Having said that, they did seem to be of a mindset that brexit wasn't going to happen. Oh, and I mentioned the Miriam Margoles programme where that awful man said that all immigrants in America should be sent back to their own country and that all Jews should be put on an island and sterilised and they said that he 'had a point'. I did make the point that, if all the immigrants were sent home that would be great for the Native American tribes because they could then have their lands back but it fell on deaf ears.......

“Brexit s reversable If people change their minds”

It needs people like him and others from all parties to speak out.

"The steady stream of Brexit-related slogans and mantras shows no sign of abating, even if the government is completely incapable of setting out a negotiating strategy. No slogan is more vacuous than that of “Global Britain”. Britain became a country with global interests and global influence some four centuries ago. It did not cease to be such when it joined the European Communities in 1973, indeed its membership enhanced its influence. And it does not need to leave now to become global.

The emptiness of the government’s rhetoric about Global Britain was well illustrated by the publication this week of a report by the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee on the future of UK diplomacy in Europe. There appeared in evidence to be three different versions of what the UK should be aiming to do in and with the rest of Europe – that of the foreign secretary, that of the minister for Europe and that of the head of the Diplomatic Service. We are getting used to dysfunctionality between government departments, but that is to convert dysfunctionality into an art form. "

There are times when I nearly feel sorry for May.

Yes, I saw that, whitewave.
Unfortunately May does not help and Barnier was not taken in. I bet Barnier wishes he was in discussion with Dominic Grieve.

infacts.org/customs-union-can-kicking-may-rob-people-meaningful-say/

Dominic Grieve gave a coherent and intelligent response to the government’s latest announcement over the CU.

“In order to avoid a hard border in NI we must retain regulatory alignment with the EU”

“I continue to be of the view that Brexit is a grave error”

“Brexit s reversable If people change their minds”

Aaron Banks is a bad boy of Brexit. He has told Ukip that they have served their purpose now, and should join the Tory party, to work from within.

These are the sort of people the Tory party feels are acceptable.

anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/just-look-at-absolute-dregs-tory-party.html