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Laura Plummer jailed

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Nelliemoser Tue 26-Dec-17 17:45:40

Ok to liven up post Christmas.
What do you think about this woman being jailed, was she naive?

It is illegal to buy prescription-only drugs without a prescription or consultation in the UK, whether on or offline. This law currently does not apply to websites based abroad *as long as you're buying for personal use .
29 Sep 2015*
She has said she was buying them for her boyfriends use.

This nasty opiate is the recreation drug of choice in Egypt.

Buying prescription drugs online - The Mix
www.themix.org.uk/drink-and...and...law/buying-prescription-drugs-online-9592.html

Cold Wed 27-Dec-17 09:41:56

What he press in the UK have not pointed out is that possessing these drugs without them being prescribed to you is an imprisonable offence even in the UK. It is illegal to give-away or sell these drugs. Tramadol is a class C drug:
- you can be sentenced to up to 2 years for possession.
- If you are caught supplying/dealing Tramadol you can be sentenced to up to 14 years.

When you read about the "opiate drug crisis" this is what they mean - drug dealers dealing in pain killers.

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 09:11:42

Thank you BlueBell, silly me ?

BlueBelle Wed 27-Dec-17 07:43:50

They have just given a VERY biased report on Sky news stating that she had been jailed for taking prescription drugs into Egypt where they are illegal whilst they are perfectly legal in this country No mention of the amount, making it sound as if she was being wrongly jailed and was the victim

BlueBelle Wed 27-Dec-17 07:20:51

I agree totally Nfkdumpling I am vehemently against the death penalty and all the more reason to not carry drugs to any country let alone one that has the death penalty still in place
I think Laura is one lucky lady to only get three years

NfkDumpling Wed 27-Dec-17 07:14:54

I think Laura was fortunate to only be given three years.

And I do feel for anyone on death row. In effect it seems to mean you're never going to get out and if you don't behave you'll die.

Baggs Wed 27-Dec-17 06:08:24

I think pharmacists have to destroy drugs that are returned to them because there is no way (or if there is a way it's too expensive to be cost effective) of ascertaining if there has been contamination. They can't take the risk of giving them to someone else.

BlueBelle Wed 27-Dec-17 05:11:43

Not her grandmother anniebach ? Lindsey sandiford the grandmother on death row for drug smuggling Jalima asked a couple of posts back
Supporters of Lyndsey sandiford have a fb page and her latest contribution is this
Dear Friends and supporters
Thank you to everyone for your kind wishes for my 61st birthday last weekend. I had a thoroughly enjoyable day with visits from some dear friends, a delicious cake, and messages from my family and supporters from around the world I was immensely touched by all your warm thoughts, and I would like to add a heartfelt thank-you to the wonderful governor at the women’s prison here, for making the small celebration possible.
I would like you all to know that I am keeping well and continuing to work and teach other women on various handicrafts.
In the meantime, keep me in your thoughts and thank you all again for your friendship and support.
Warm regards
Lindsay

Not pleasant to be on death row but she doesn’t sound as if she is being treated badly

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 05:02:25

Good grief what has her grandmother done?

BlueBelle Wed 27-Dec-17 04:49:43

I don’t see her as naive at all she would have had to be quite devious to obtain 300 tramadol, I wouldn’t know where to start to get 10, I would have thought internet was her only real way to get so many or to buy off drug dealers or maybe she is a ‘user’ herself and has a supplier
Anyone with a quarter of a brain knows you don’t take drugs into another country she’s not a child she took the chance and is paying the price 3 years is not a lifetime let’s hope she learns from the experience
I believe the grandmother is still in prison, another I don’t feel sorry for people need to be more law abiding

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 04:33:55

Though it was said on the news she is 33 years old, hardly a naive young girl if so.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 27-Dec-17 01:44:34

I think she knew it was illegal to get hold of the medication in the UK and that it was illegal to take the medication to her husband in Egypt. However, I don't think she thought she was doing anything that could get her into serious trouble. I don't know if I would call her niave, I would probably call her foolish. Bordering on plain stupid.

Hilltopgran Wed 27-Dec-17 01:01:43

Have to say, I found it difficult to understand how she could get prescription only drugs for someone not even resident in this country. I also find it difficult to believe that if she is a frequent visitor to Eqypt she was not aware that the tablets were illegal. I feel sympathy for her imprisoned in a cell in the heat a long way from home, but I hope it serves as a warning to others travelling abroad, check the rules of the country you are visiting.
I think the family going on the news saying it was a kind act and she should not be punished, is difficult to agree with. People travelling to other countries should respect the laws of that country, as we hope people visiting this country will do.
As I take prescription drugs, I always have a signed Drs note that they are drugs prescribed for my health with me and would recommend anyone travelling to do the same, plus a copy of the prescription.

Jalima1108 Tue 26-Dec-17 23:23:42

She either knew exactly what she was doing - perhaps this was to fund her trip? or she is completely naive and quite stupid.

What happened to the British grandmother held in a Bali prison on death row for drug smuggling? Lindsey Sandiford?

Jalima1108 Tue 26-Dec-17 23:20:46

I'm not very clear about the facts of this case: there are different strengths of Tramadol so what strength were the ones she was carrying? It says in one report that he is her husband, not boyfriend, apparently they needed a 'marriage certificate' to be able to share a bedroom in Egypt.

Is this drug prescribed in Egypt or is it banned completely? If it can be prescribed then why did he not obtain sufficient for his needs on prescription?
How did she get hold of them?

I was prescribed them when I left hospital after surgery, I am sure there were quite a few in the packet but I can't remember what strength. However, I didn't like the effect they had and they didn't seem to dull the pain so I returned them to the chemist.

What happens to all the returned packets of drugs ? - do the chemists themselves destroy them, or return them to the NHS?

Cold Tue 26-Dec-17 23:15:28

If someone is on max dose the amount she had appears to be a month’s supply. But who knows?

Well when I was on the max dose of tramadol I only took 2 tablets per day (2 x 200mg) - so that would be 145 days. but the max dose is usually only prescribed for severe post surgical pain and then you reduce dosage for chronic pain. Turned out I couldn't tolerate them

I'm not sure they have ever said which strength tablets she had?

Elrel Tue 26-Dec-17 22:48:57

If someone is on max dose the amount she had appears to be a month’s supply.
But who knows?

NanKate Tue 26-Dec-17 22:19:39

Why do these naive or besotted girls get tricked by their boyfriends to purchase drugs for them? I bet he is not about when she come out of prison in 3 years.

Jane10 Tue 26-Dec-17 21:35:23

Blimey this 'friend' must have been stockpiling for decades given how doctors are so stingy with prescribing these opiates - and rightly so.
Her story just doesn't hold up.

Cold Tue 26-Dec-17 21:22:45

Actually I've just been reading the account of her trial and she didn't buy it online from abroad - she claims a "friend" gave it to her.
www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/26/laura-plummer-jailed-for-three-years-for-smuggling-drugs-into-egypt

So probably the NHS paid for this medication that someone had stockpiled

Elegran Tue 26-Dec-17 21:10:02

She must have bought them online. Nelliemoser's original post includes the words "It is illegal to buy prescription-only drugs without a prescription or consultation in the UK, whether on or offline. This law currently does not apply to websites based abroad as long as you're buying for personal use. 29 Sep 2015* "

Cold Tue 26-Dec-17 21:04:22

I don't understand how she managed to get almost 300 prescription-only opiate painkillers?

Did she buy them on the blackmarket in the UK from a drug dealer? Did she fake symptoms to get them on the NHS? No reputable doctor would just hand these out for a boyfriend that didn't even live in the UK and had not been examined.

Surely her boyfriend would have known they were illegal? Didn't she question why he couldn't get them from his own doctor and needed her to smuggle them in?

jura2 Tue 26-Dec-17 21:00:32

Anyone caught with 300 Tramadol in the streets of UK would be in big trouble too - a form of morphine.

glammanana Tue 26-Dec-17 20:59:09

How stupid could she be not asking why the boyfriend could not obtain these drugs via his own Doctor and also reading the list of banned substances not allowed into the Country before she travelled she deserves all she gets ,and how has she passed through our customs with them I thought all medication had to be in a transparent bag when you go through customs check,maybe she had them in luggage stored in the hold.

jura2 Tue 26-Dec-17 20:40:23

Tramadol is not 'just a painkiller' - they are opiates and highly addictive.

Jayh Tue 26-Dec-17 19:54:24

The Egyptian boyfriend must know that these painkillers are banned in Egypt. Did this woman not ask why he couldn’t get an effective painkiller legally? Love is indeed blind.