NHS

Five with this one

Oh dear, three posts in a row.

Must get my head in order


However, someone would then complain that it was tltr

Just out of interest, what is the point of saying "passing exams isn't everything"?
Perhaps Jeremy Corbyn is proof of that Gracesgran - he didn't do very well academically, but look where he is now!
That should be encouragement to all those who do not enjoy academia.

Why give people appointments if you plan to cancel them?
I agree djen, it is mystifying.
But it seems to be something that has been done in the past too.
Why? Is it just the 'system' that is at fault, ie the medical staff and those who send out the appointments who schedule the appointments, hoping that there will not be a 'winter crisis'? Although there usually is so why schedule routine surgery for then?

How can you have a cross-party committee on the NHS?
PR?

Primrose were the links what you were looking for?

GracesGran passing exams is not a sign of intelligence. It might be, but it's also quite possible it's a sign of the being able to remember facts, or the pupil was taught nothing but exam subjects, or the teacher chose the easiest exam boards, or the pupil studied the subjects longer than the standard time or simply being good at tests. I could go on. Many people have said they passed exams by cramming the night before or are good at regurgitating. These are just some of the reasons why the current exam qualification systems are being replaced.

Not every intelligent person is academic. BTW Jeremy Corbyn didn't go to university, but he did spend a couple of years doing voluntary work overseas doing youth work. He's been an MP for almost 35 and is now Leader of the Opposition. I don't think anyone would say he's not intelligent (not saying anyone is).

Perhaps you need to sort your thoughts out, lemon, so they all go in the same post instead of
three or four at a time.

Says the person who often posts 5/6/7 consecutive posts, without interruption, all on the same thread?

Back to the NHS perhaps....

Irony is wasted on you durhamjen I see.

Both my posts were relevant Lemons, whoever's post you were answering. Never mind; I have lost interest now.

That's what an order looks like, lemon.
Just so you know.

All my own words.

Look to your own style (just a suggestion!) which is and always has been,a mix of second hand comments borrowed from bloggers, links, and cut and paste jobs which you present as your own words by not quoting the source.

I said perhaps, lemon. That's not an order, just a suggestion, so that people can understand you better.

You do know why people recognised who you were, right from the start, and you admitted your style hadn't changed.
Perhaps it should.

Of course, you never post more than one comment/link at a time hey?

Giving orders to posters now dj ?

Perhaps you need to sort your thoughts out, lemon, so they all go in the same post instead of three or four at a time.

GG you are so predictable!
I was answering, and partly agreeing with trisher but in your eagerness to jump in boots first you didn’t read her post.

This is it.
"There is no evidence that the Tories are trying to run down the NHS. In fact it was a Tory minister in 1944 who proposed we have it in the first place. He was part of wide consensus across all parties on the matter this time. The NHS was initially funded in part by the Americans. Without the Marshall Plan we couldn't have afforded it in 1948. The doctors it should be noted were against it initially & had to be bribed. Our GP system is a relic of that. The issue of dentistry is another relic as well. Since then there has always been a difference between how the Tories & Labour had wanted to run it. Labour favors the top down approach with it being run from Whitehall, whilst the Tories have wanted it to be much more decentralized. In the 1980's Mrs Thatcher wanted to fund it via a social insurance model as others health systems are in Europe but was talked out of it by Kenneth Clarke. After 20 meetings she became convinced that he was right & that she wasn't. Today because of an ageing population we are going to have to increase its funding along with social care as a proportion of GDP. Many are convinced of that on all sides of our political mainstream though the Treasury are holding out at the moment as bean counters do. So, Mark, can we have a proper debate on this subject this time rather than yet another puerile one, just for once? "

There are proper debates all over the place. It's just that Hunt and May don't listen.
Obviously this person has never heard of Mark Steel.

Anyway, Ralf Little wants a proper debate with Hunt, but Hunt won't do it.

That's what I thought when I first heard that, Lazigirl. Why give people appointments if you plan to cancel them?
They could have just been given appointments for February or March. But that probably wouldn't have given them the figures they need for treatment times.

There was a very long comment after Mark Steel's article, telling him off! Somebody doesn't have a sense of humour - or has private healthcare.

going to plan is such rubbish that if you didn't laugh you'd cry. I heard a nurse on Any Answers today saying that if these cancellations were planned it was a waste of money, and upsetting for patients, to be sent any appointments or admission dates for January.

I know the state of the NHS is not funny, but....

www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-crisis-winter-theresa-may-austerity-cuts-beds-all-going-to-plan-a8154161.html

passing exams isn’t everything

Of course it isn't but it is proof of knowledge. Some people without that proof think they have the same level of knowledge, some will, some certainly don't and a few may even have more knowledge in a specific area.

Just out of interest, what is the point of saying "passing exams isn't everything"? What meaning does it have in the context of this thread? Just interested as I said.

His basic intelligence level can’t change trisher though.

Nor can your knowledge apparently Lemons. It is now an accepted fact that intelligence is plastic (Adey and Shayer ‘Learning Intelligence‘).

Thanks for the links!