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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

durhamjen Mon 08-Jan-18 22:16:15

Actually, the quote was from Annie.

Anniebach Mon 08-Jan-18 21:41:54

Corbyn is a hypocrite

Bridgeit Mon 08-Jan-18 20:48:32

Not above misleading young voters though !

durhamjen Mon 08-Jan-18 19:04:58

"Corbyn is a good man, honest and caring. Sadly lacking in so many politicians."

durhamjen Mon 08-Jan-18 19:02:30

www.facebook.com/events/1701574746570580/?active_tab=about

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 22:17:06

No Jen, I am as I have always been , left of centre, you don't care the party is being destroyed , I do . If my posts seem more balanced than two years ago it is because the party is being taken to the far left, I want the victory we had in 1993 which kept the party on power for three elections I do not want a government run by unions and militants, I do not want to lose the likes of Hilary Benn, Angela Eagle, Ben Bradshaw , Yvette Cooper , I want more like them but Momentum already have then on their hit list .

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 22:07:40

Wrong again, Annie, but you have gone so far to the right it's not worth discussing anything with you these days.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 21:47:53

Wrong again, I have not changed my views on tax fraud but .Jen you are excusing benefit cheats on the grounds that more is lost by tax fraud, both are wrong, I try to keep a balanced view, you do not . You have gone so far left you have no balance , all homeless are victims? Not true, all people of wealth come by their money through devious means, not true . You will not admit all homeless are not victims. Your first reaction after Grenfel fire was a repeat of Corbyn, take the empty houses off the legal owners, no thought to cost in legal fees, no thought that a luxury home would cost much to turn into accomodation for several families, you seem to have developed hatred and this stops you from having a calm discussion on any topic .

You are not a one man band when it comes to caring about the vunerable in society, many here do.

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 21:10:28

Using people on the streets to score political points is wrong, I agree. So why do you keep doing it?

Very few on benefits are cheats. Far more money is lost to the government through tax fraud, but I don't expect you to recognise that any more.
Two years ago you would have done.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 20:51:10

And not all on the streets are honest. I acknowledge some homeless are genuine some are not, just as some on benefits are cheats some are not,

Using these people to try to score political points is so wrong , in my opinion.

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 19:45:55

www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-provide-permanent-shelter-and-housing-for-rough-sleepers

Nearly 61,000 people have signed this petition now.

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 19:39:37

www.channel4.com/news/in-work-but-on-the-streets

Not all people on the streets are out of work and on drugs.

Ilovecheese Sun 07-Jan-18 16:32:36

petra Where did you see that?

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 13:53:13

I hope they pay for the taxi with money received from begging not from their benefits Suppose it all goes into the same pot.

petra Sun 07-Jan-18 13:40:50

I see that lots of taxi drivers (in Windsor) are now speaking up about the 'homeless' in their town.
They are saying that they regularly take them home ( after begging on the street) to where they live.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 12:04:42

Under £400 pw for being responsible for the homeless

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 11:55:33

MP for Windsor is Adam Afriyie.

politicalscrapbook.net/2018/01/manhunt-launched-for-millionaire-tory-mp-for-windsor-missing-since-clear-the-homeless-scandal/

Nothing to say on the matter so far.

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 11:23:13

politicalscrapbook.net/2018/01/windsor-council-leader-is-paid-director-of-government-agency-responsible-for-helping-homeless/

Expects to be paid between £10-20,000 when he starts the job in February.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 11:12:57

There is help for homeless in Wales, a friend works with the homeless, every council must provide accomodation for a homeless person if the person is from their county

. Problem is the majority who sleep rough in Cardiff , Swansea etc refuse to return to their counties because there is - more going on in Cardiff and Swansea

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 11:07:19

Again an interview with a politician who is going to make claims .

No government can supply the money for the number of rehab centres needed . One in four now suffer from mental health problems. The answer ? Rehab centres in every town in the country, care homes in every town in the country, , mental health hospitals in every town in the country . Accomodation for every person homeless because of a relationship breakdown or thrown out of their home because of their addiction, teenagers leaving home because they don't get on with parents new partner

Then the problem of the chicken and egg, which came first the addiction or the mental illness

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 10:47:34

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/vulnerable-hit-hardest-services-social-640534

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 10:44:19

The woman who gave the interview said she worked there, money must be involved surely , she is the manager, who is the owner, council or private.

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Jan-18 10:39:01

These men must have been in the system somehow because the landlady would have been receiving rent - I don't think she was providing accommodation out of the goodness of her heart, although I know that some do.
However, that is just opinion, not fact.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 10:34:17

It is lazy reporting Jalima . Pity these tragic deaths cannot be discussed without dismissing them with - more money is needed . How many who keep saying this have or have had any personal connections with rehab centres and mental health hospitals . So easy to type - more money needed

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Jan-18 10:19:51

It is lazy reporting anniebach and it is strange that I have not seen or heard it reported anywhere else in or on the local news.

It is best to have the full facts first before forming an opinion.