Would anyone of sound mind refer to themselves as "a genius"

I don't have a problem with Melania Trump. I do pity her though.

quizqueen, I agree. I've watched quite a few videos, in which Mr Trump is steadily & quietly going about the business of being US President, visiting veterans, hosting events for ordinary people in the White House grounds. He & his wife come across as caring & gracious. Meanwhile, the administration is ticking over efficiently. He is intent on fulfilling the promises he made before he was elected (and yes, he DID want to be elected, despite what that book says!).

1. newnanny you must have missed my post from last night at 22.59. The economy is is healthy, but that's nothing to do with Trump and it will not stay healthy if he carries out his election plans.

2. Even Trump's own supporters are saying despite what they have seen and heard, Trump means well. Damned by faint praise indeed.

3. I do not think the Democrats are the best thing since sliced bread. But never in a million years would I vote for Trump or the Republican Party. I thank my lucky stars I don't live in the USA.

4. Faced with a stark choice of Trump or an intelligent corrupt politician, I would choose the latter. At least I might go to bed at night not worrying if he's another step closer to releasing a nuclear weapon.

5. As for Winston Churchill, am I glad he was on our side?
Yes, I am but I do not admire Winston Churchill or regard him as a hero. He was a thug who recognised a bigger thug in the Nazis. He acted as he did because by coincidence it suited his personal and his political ambitions and beliefs. Anyone who looks at the actions of Churchill away from WW2 knows the facts. Try reading Churchill's Empire by Richard Toye.

I have no preference for Republican or Democrats, it isn't my country and I respect the right of the people of the USA to choose. However, even taking a non-partisan view, it is really difficult to accept the actions one of the most powerful men in the world undertaking a p*ss*ing contest with an obvious psychopath on Twitter. You don't have to be biased to see that it is dangerous, unstatesmanlike behaviour, surely quizqueen! I think you have a certain type of ego and self assurance to believe that you are capable of being a President but can't help think that Trump is way up on the narcissist scale. I have a certain amount of empathy with the American people not wanting a leader from the usual political dynasties, maybe even have some for some of Trump's slightly less pc statements but he does seem to be out of control and lacking in any sensitivity at all.

Quizqueen "what's not to like!"

Do you want a list?

Quizqueen - have you read what Trump's family and supporters in the White House are saying about his mental capacity? I don't like his policies, but even if I did, I'd be very scared indeed that this man has his finger on the nuclear button. My fear is greatly increased by his boasting that his nuclear button is larger than the one controlled by a belligerent and narcissistic leader in North Korea. It sounds like the language of the playground, but it is not play. Have you seen the carefully worded reports from a group of highly qualified psychiatrists, who are deeply concerned about the danger Trump poses to the whole world?

He's very, very scary

Can I recommend 'The Road to Somewhere' by David Goodhart? It explains the great divide between the pro-Trump, pro-Brexit voters and the others in a thoughtful and non-partisan way.

I have found it very thought provoking: very briefly we seem to be divided, in europe , here and US, into two tribes, those who feel rooted in one place and value security and familiarity, the Somewheres, and those who
believe in globalisation, value autonomy and change, the Anywheres. The anywheres run things and the somewheres feel left behind and their concerns ignored.

If we understood each other, we might not fly off the handle with people who had different values.

He might well be a gransnet member Jalima as he has lots of grandchildren!

It is a well-known fact that geniuses do not know their left from their right (or port from starboard) mostlyharmless.

Trump is not stupid?

If Mr Trump was black, none of you would dare say any of the things you write about him on here but, instead, he just happens to have a personality which most of you don't seem to like.
Really?
On what grounds do you make that assertion quizqueen?

I expect he speaks highly of all you lot too!!!!
Yes, he could be on Gransnet, reading all our posts

"Stupid people don't become billionaires."
Trump inherited his business fortune from his father. He has declared bankruptcy four times for his hotel and casino businesses.

George Bush is a republican. Robert Mugabe is black and I did not feel constrained in expressing my opinions about him because of his colour. Trump is supposedly leader of the free world, so I'll feel free to say what I think about him. I think he is dangerously self-absorbed and his actions could have very far-reaching consequences for us all.

He is not stupid. Stupid people don't become billionaires. He gets his own way a lot and is manipulative but not stupid. Despite near hysteria when he was elected he is doing what he said he would; putting America first and American economy is on the up.

petra - no, they don't www.thoughtco.com/presidents-and-psych-evals-4076979

sarahellenwhitney - wow, just wow...

SARAHELENWHITNEY I think Im right in saying George W Bush was a republican!

pamdixon
Your preference being whom and why?

quizqueen
100% in agreement with you.
Looking back all those who see democrats as the best thing since sliced bread what U.S president has done more harm to his own country and the rest of the world by bringing about a war which millions are still suffering from ,why none other than mr democrat himself George Bush Jnr.

Quizqueen- what an extraordinary statement.

It has nothing to do with black or white - although it definitely was with Tea Party ult right with Obama. Republicans hid their money and would have rather scuppered their country rather than see him succeed in anything. Including relatives of mine - the bile and racism that poured from them was appalling. We had got on so well with them before, on our many visits, and theirs to here - we are no longer in touch, sadly.

The sorry excuse for a human has no filter whatsoever. Detest him and all he stands for.

I don't think we are in much of a position to criticise what with having a govt with Boris Johnson, Gove et al. ?

I'm just glad that I'm not an american is all I'm going to say!

Jaycee 5, well said, lets hope they have done that, his childish behaviour would embrace a new toy.

I am torn between someone saying what they think and our politicians saying what they don’t think. So guarded. You might find some of our politicians think the same as Trump but don’t say it! At least with Trump you know what he is up too. I am not saying I support him. I don’t know enough about the US.