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Would anyone of sound mind refer to themselves as "a genius"

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phoenix Sat 06-Jan-18 18:08:14

Trump. (BTW, that was an indication, not an instruction to any that might use that word for fart.)

SpringyChicken Sat 06-Jan-18 18:45:43

It's a pity they don't have the Monster Raving Loony party in the US. He could then settle in his rightful place. There's something not right somewhere.

Morgana Sat 06-Jan-18 18:48:37

Was he serious when he said it?!

varian Sat 06-Jan-18 19:07:08

He is uniquely devoid of self awareness, which wouldn't matter if he had not , by some fluke, found himself in the position of "leader of the free world". Very very scary.

NannyTee Sat 06-Jan-18 19:17:35

Never ever has a president of the U.S.A been so up his own a**e. He comes across as a psychopath at times. It makes one shudder !

Chewbacca Sat 06-Jan-18 19:52:23

Scares the bejaysus out of me.

nanaK54 Sat 06-Jan-18 19:55:35

Me too Chewbacca sad

Fennel Sat 06-Jan-18 20:19:02

Even more scarey is the public support that he still has in many parts of the USA. They think he's Great!
And not just the rednecks, but the rich business people, bankers, and the influential Jewish political group who he's sucking up to.
I don't think he's so stupid.

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 20:27:15

Was he serious when he said it?!
Probably Morgana!

I have heard parents boast of their DC being geniuses - perhaps his parents did the same?

Primrose65 Sat 06-Jan-18 20:34:00

I agree Fennel. I don't like his public persona one bit. But he seems to be lasting a lot longer than many people thought. The Dow is at an all-time high, North & South Korea are talking for the first time in ages - if this was Obama, we'd all be singing his praises.
He might be many distasteful things, but he's not stupid.

petra Sat 06-Jan-18 21:54:39

All US Presidents have a 'Mental Capacity' test before commencing office. He was assessed by the same Dr as Obama.
As Primrose said: their economy is doing well.

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 21:58:36

I didn't know tha!

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 06-Jan-18 22:59:54

The US economy is looking healthy and at present it's what's called a Goldilocks economy - everything is just about right. But there's a couple of things that aren't being said. The first thing is that if President Trump keeps his promise of increasing economic growth to 4%, that could create a boom that leads to a damaging bust. The cynic in me thinks about a lot of rich people making a lot of money in the short term leaving everyone else to pay the price later.

The second thing is the rate of unemployment, which is stable at around 4% and well below the target. This is the official unemployment rate (U-3). But a lot of workers have taken part-time jobs whilst looking for full-time work. Also, most job growth is in low-priced sectors and some people have been out of work for so long that they'll never be able to return to the high-paying jobs they used to have. This means there's an increase in structural unemployment which is where there's a mismatch between the jobs available and the skill levels of the unemployed. The Chairperson of the Federal Reserve has said the more accurate unemployment rate is the real unemployment rate (U-6) and it is double the official unemployment rate U-3. Apparently this situation is unique to this period of recovery in American history.

I'm not an expert in the US economy BTW, I just came across an interesting article about it today! [grin

Primrose65 Sat 06-Jan-18 23:27:18

Wilma Well I'm impressed.

vampirequeen Sat 06-Jan-18 23:50:31

The economy etc was on the up before he took over the presidency. He's simply claiming the successes brought about by the previous administration. The same way he claimed that through him there had been no aircraft lost of life in 2017 failing to mention that there hadn't been for the previous few years either.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 06-Jan-18 23:58:15

Thanks Primrose! grin

Yes, nothing he's done will have kicked in yet and the recovery has been steady and is forecast to continue that way - unless Trump takes steps to increase the growth rate too quickly, which is what he's promised to do.

Teetime Sun 07-Jan-18 10:19:18

Reminds me of Mr Pooter.

moxeyns Sun 07-Jan-18 10:51:11

Petra, my understanding is that he provided a private fitness evaluation, and refused the normal evaluation. The medical on next Friday will be the first time the Whitehouse medical staff have had the opportunity to do anything formal.

vampirequeen Sun 07-Jan-18 11:02:37

Yes the next medical will be the first White House medical.

radicalnan Sun 07-Jan-18 11:12:42

Trump again ladies????????????????

What sort of mass hysteria is this?

I wonder how his 'mental health' would fare against Churchill's.....a depressive and heavy drinker and inclined to be demanding and want his own way?

Never a day goes by one here without someone assessing him as a sociopath, they are quite common among the population and high functioning at times and can be very successful. How do we think Hilary is mentally then?

mostlyharmless Sun 07-Jan-18 11:14:17

He seems a narcissist ( I know it's an armchair diagnosis). He needs constant praise and adulation, but can't listen to anyone else's views about the world.
Presidents need to listen to everyone, not just his sycophantic team living in a Trump bubble. Of course he's a genius - in his bubble.

pollyperkins Sun 07-Jan-18 11:19:49

Radicalnan are you a Trump supporter? It's very difficult not to comment on him when he is so powerful and yet makes such outrageous (and frankly, childish) statements. What worries me (being in the UK and not the US) is the likelihood of him starting a nuclear war in which case we are all doomed.

jura2 Sun 07-Jan-18 11:27:33

indeed pollyperkins - and his toy (d**k) waving contests with Kim Jong un are scary in a way that has never occurred before. For the first time ever- we have been thinking - what if? And for the first time- we hve suddenly felt very far away from our daughters and grandchildren - and have talked about what we would do if ...

can't you see that radicalnan?

Jaycee5 Sun 07-Jan-18 11:40:50

I sympathise with the choice that Americans had in the last election. It was the not voters who made the difference and although I strongly believe in voting, I would have found it difficult to vote for Hillary.
The Democrats should be using the shock of Trump to put their own house in order but instead they are pointing fingers at Russia and banging on about winning the popular vote (which just means that they won California and New York as if the rest of the Country doesn't matter).
I think Trump is awful (the worst is the nepotism and money making by Kushner and the daughter-wife, a look at their financial arrangements is an eye opener), but I can understand why he won.
Much of the harm he is doing will be reversible but his supreme court appointments will be causing damage for years. He will have a way to go to beat Clinton's repeal of the Glas Steagal Act in causing harm though.
The US has long had a choice between bad or worse although there is a glimmer of home in some of the new Democrats coming through. It is ironic that one of their best was elected in Alabama - but following that result 13 states brought in laws making it more difficult for African Americans to vote and the ability to gerrymander in the US is horrendous.
They have a long way to go to improve things. I hope he does not get in again (I would be surprised if he wanted to stand again) but the whole system is very dysfunctional. Trump just seems to be to be a symptom of that dysfunction.

quizqueen Sun 07-Jan-18 11:46:24

If Mr Trump was black, none of you would dare say any of the things you write about him on here but, instead, he just happens to have a personality which most of you don't seem to like. I expect he speaks highly of all you lot too!!!!
He's trying to do the best he can for his country which is why the voters chose him. He's standing up to the bully in North Korea, he's trying to get rid of undesirables in his country and prevent more from coming in and trying to improve the economy of the US by prioritising buying from the home economy. What's not to like!!!