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Trump's UK visit

(196 Posts)
mcem Fri 12-Jan-18 06:46:47

Just heard that he has cancelled.
It will be interesting to hear more as the story unravels.
All because he thinks Obama got it wrong when he sold the embassy building in Grosvenor Square and he doesn't like the new building.
As my grandad would have said "Aye, right!"

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 09:21:50

Unless you happen to come from Africa, or a Muslim country.

Anniebach Sat 13-Jan-18 09:06:16

Does the UK not need America ?

OldMeg Sat 13-Jan-18 08:36:45

He’s a pathological liar. He’s trying to deny he used the term ‘shithole countries’ but two senators in the room confirm that’s exactly what he did say.

maddy629 Sat 13-Jan-18 08:23:51

I for one am delighted that this evil man is not coming here,I hope he never sets foot on British soil.

whitewave Sat 13-Jan-18 08:14:08

I think with the latest racial rhetoric this will certainly play out internationally not least in the African continent and beyond.

Trump is contributing to the changing attitude towards America from one of being a beacon of hope and democracy to one of condemnation and distrust.

OldMeg Sat 13-Jan-18 08:01:47

You speak In clichés ninny - don’t you have any words to express your opinion that are less perjorative and hackneyed?

It is quite obvious that Macron and Merkel have not courted’ Trump as both treated him with a noticeable amount of polite coldness and disdain even in public. Indeed in one well-publicised incident Macron put him down, subtly but quite clearly, in public. They met him as befitted his position of President, nothing more.

This is about the world, and the public, not having to accept the politics of hatred and division but being free to express their contempt for Trump. This is not about the American people or the office of President. This is about the ‘man’.

ninny Sat 13-Jan-18 07:32:05

Typos. why is he welcome there and not here.

ninny Sat 13-Jan-18 07:24:20

My comment if the cap fits was in reference to looney lefties. Perhaps I should have said bigoted left leaning, no condemnation of the EU or Macron, Merkel and others who have courted Trump, we are still part of the EU so why is he welcome there and not there.

Jalima1108 Fri 12-Jan-18 23:14:08

Yes, rather quieter than London so he will probably be whisked off to Davos without anyone catching a glimpse of his bouffant.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 22:42:13

You're welcome.

Chewbacca Fri 12-Jan-18 22:28:33

I doubt it GracesgranMK2, but thanks for the helpful tip. grin

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 22:08:20

made

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 22:07:59

Graesgran if the cap fits (sic)

If you are suggesting I have made personally abused any member or members ninny then please point out to me where I have done that and I will apologise. I doubt that, being unable to do so, you will find it in you to do the same.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 22:04:10

I've often wondered about that GracesgranMK2.

I suggest the next time you notice personal abuse you comment on it in the same measured way then Chewbacca. You never know, it may stop.

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 21:59:42

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-12/trump-rebuff-of-immigration-deal-puts-deadline-pressure-on-talks

Trump is doing really well.
Is that how he managed to go bankrupt so often?

ninny Fri 12-Jan-18 21:54:13

Graesgran if the cap fits.

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 21:36:44

You'd think that those who support him would have had second thoughts as soon as the nepotism started, wouldn't you, considering that was the reason they did not vote for the Clinton family.

jura2 Fri 12-Jan-18 21:32:38

Jalima- not sure about demonstrations at Davos.

Totally different situation- Davos is in a small alpine valley - chosen because if means security is relatively easy as access is very limited. Police and customs will be able to control all that go in and out of there- be it by road, train or helicopter.

Agree with Jane10 - totally ignoring him would be best way to deal with him.

Elegran Fri 12-Jan-18 21:29:34

What makes people say 'I couldn't believe anything to be wronger than Trump" is that the proud mission statements of the past proclaimed the US to be the land of the free for the huddled and oppressed masses, welcomed as they poured in from their "shitty countries" to the place of equality and opportunity where what counted was not where you came from but where you were going and how hard you worked to get there. Not that it always completely lived up to those high ideals, but the ideal was there.

Trump is working hard to pull those ideals down into mediocrity and worse, to bring the US into line with the countries who practise all the things Maddy mentions, the nepotism, the lies, the corruption, the cynical use of political expedients for private gain and power, the rejection of the experience of the judiciary, the increase in dependence upon the military, the jettisoning of all the improvements in the living conditions and dignity of his citizens that his predecessors had slowly achieved.

It is the contrast between the image of "America the golden" and reality.
"For fairest things turn foulest by their deeds.
Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds"

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 21:23:55

I wonder why trump thinks that Norwegians will flock to America, too?
Fewer than 100 a year want to be naturalised now.

Chewbacca Fri 12-Jan-18 21:22:00

I've often wondered about that GracesgranMK2.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 21:00:30

descent - obviously not decent.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-Jan-18 20:59:10

How pathetic all the lefty loonies protesting ....

What is it with the decent into personal abuse of other GNetters? Is that really how you talk to people ninny?

Jalima1108 Fri 12-Jan-18 20:49:32

Pragmatism ninny rather than a sincere welcome I would think.

ninny Fri 12-Jan-18 20:36:34

How pathetic all the lefty loonies protesting but not a word when their beloved EU, France and Germany welcomed him with open arms.