So - what is Farage up to now ?!?

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This is what the government has disdain for, and wants us out of.

One thing we know for sure lemon is that your complacent attitude would never prevent an alarming lurch to the right.

Adonis writes

“I am preparing a speech on Rees Mogg and I am amazed at the crass, heartless and extreme things he has said on everything from gay-rights tobabortion. From the civil service, foreigners to Europe.
Rees Mogg is indistinguishable from Farage on most subjects but far more extreme on social issues”

I see your posts are keeping up to their usual standard lemon

There have always been incidents like that djen all the time!
Men threatening foreigners or anyone who is different, but now these incidents are being noticed or reported.

jura you seem determined to think that the UK could be like Germany, well, we are not!Never have been, either.
The situation then ( there) and here (now) is a million miles apart.
For those determined to think the absolute worst, go ahead and wallow in this silly stuff, but don’t expect everyone to join you down there.

I was reading in the local paper about a man who was talking to a friend in a pub, in Russian.
He was followed outside and threatened with a beating up. He told the gang that he had important friends in our country and they would not like the consequences when his story got in the paper. They left him alone.

If the economy, job losses, services, etc, did take a turn for the worse, in such a divided country as we have at the moment- so well illustrated here on GN- then things could escalate very quickly (as it did then) - sadly. It took many years in Germany to get to the stage we all know about now.

It doesn’t require a crystall ball ww........ we have never had a fascist state here and strongly doubt we ever will.

well we certainly hope so - but in Germany it started in very much the same way- intimidation, shouting and insults in the streets and shops, 'minor' beating up and humilitation - in the early 30s and slowly but surely escalated ...my mother was studying in 32/33 in Munich, when Hitler rose to power, and witnessed the above, again and again- but the end of her stay, she left early as it was getting worse.

So yes, agreed- we are not there yet- but anyone who cannot see that intimidation and minor attacks have not been getting much worse recently, either lives in the boonies, or has their head firmly in that sand.

Lemongrove- you have not read the post- but I did tell you what was in it 'don't live in the UK - then none of your business' and 'go take a drink, etc, and shut up'. Clearly against forum rules and basic common decency.

So glad we have an oracle on GN, where would we be without your lovely crystal ball lemon

Yes, very chilling, but that was pre war Germany and not the UK in 2018, I don’t think that anyone need be worried about us going down that same route!

mary chilling isn’t it?

There are a number of pointers on that list that certainly gives cause for alarm.

MaryEliza I think the only posts on here that you ‘look forward to’ are those of your own.
For the record: I did not defend the content of any post ( as I had not read it) but commented that if posters put feisty comments about UKIP then they should expect feisty answers.
If more than feisty of course, then HQ will delete it, as your own comment was deleted.

Poster from the US Holocaust Museum

paulbernal.wordpress.com/2018/02/06/free-speech-safe-spaces-and-hypocrisy/

An interesting blog about free speech.
Why was it that after Mogg's meeting at UWE May called for a new law to protect MPs, but not to protect the public being attacked by the MPs bodyguard?

The whole point about free speech is to protect the weak from the strong, not the other way round.

Well the post that’s left tells the story anyway lemon. I look forward to your next defence of a post you never read.

newsthump.com/2018/02/07/cheddar-man-probably-uks-first-benefit-tourist-insists-nigel-farage/

Are there no depths the right wing on here will not sink to? Defending what a right wing poster posted and implying it must have been deserved when they never even read the posts.

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Feisty is one thing lemongrove- bein told it is 'none of your business and to 'shut up'' is, well, another.

Not for much longer. Aaron Banks has asked them to join the conservative party and push for a hard Brexit.
He was the one who bankrolled Ukip.
Farage can't do that any more, as he has lost half his MEP's pay for spending EU money on the party. Breaking the law, in other words.

I see the Fail has called Soubry a “traitor”

Not acceptable language and in line with its pre-war tone.

Back to type.

Result? Soubry has a death threat.

Have no idea what was deleted on here, but do remember that if you post aggressive things about ‘ukippers’ you may expect to get feisty answers back. Also remember that UKIP
Is a legitimate political party and not a banned organisation.
Certainly not my party of choice but so what?

Spot on WW And then with no apparent irony on another political thread,the right wingers complain that the left wing posters put people off posting because they are so nasty and bullying. How come no right wing poster called out GG for her posts that were deleted?

This is just the same as the last time we were discussing Farage and cohorts.

The whole thread gets pounced on by posters who never or rarely post on anything else. Their rhetoric is always aggressive in tone with underlying racist or xenophobic innuendo. Other posters often pile in who support what they see as a right winger without seemingly to understand the implication of what is being posted by these infrequent posters.

By its nature political threads frequently become extremely combatitive, but threads like this often reach extraordinary unpleasant levels.

Something even Maybot has recently called out.