The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

I will have to have a huge bonfire to get rid of my DGC’s David Williams box set together with my favourite Gino d’Campo recipe books as I believe he was also one of the guests.

Perhaps gilly ?

Another thought, is it not possibly for some of the girls or the reporter to take out a private prosecution ? This would benefit women more than not selling one authors books

Perhaps it was a fake penis.

We only know what the reporter said , so it must all be true ?

Who knows, Annie? Its hard to know what on earth went on there. None of it sounds very appetising.

But there were a large number of girls there , must have witnesses

I should imagine the other mens eyes were elsewhere. I think I would have stabbed it with a fork if I'd noticed it! Ugh! Old, dirty men..

If he reached the table with it then surely not very small.

I wonder why he hasn't been arrested for indecent exposure, plenty of witnesses surely

Maybe he had a particularly small penis?

I am curious if this old man was standing or if the table was low

Who was he durhamjen?

Adaunas, none of the men saw anything that happened, not even the man who put his penis on the table. Amazing what your body does on its own.

We are not in Ancient Greek times and
Freud is no longer in practice. Hysteria is now used to describe more than women and their hormones

Thanks MaizieD - I'm hopeless at links but was going to post in support of trisher's comments about the use of the words "hysteria/hysterical" as a way of suggesting that women are ruled by the wombs or hormones, as a means of keeping women in their place and as a means of suggesting that women are simply not fit to have the vote, to work outside the home etc etc etc.
When Freud realised that the majority of his female patients were "hysterical" in alleging they had been sexually abused (mostly naming their father as the abuser), he concluded this must result from hysteria and from a desire to replace the mother as their father's sexual partner. It couldn't possibly be true, he concluded, that so many men sexually abused their daughters.
Apologies for going slightly off topic - but how off topic is it in truth. There remains a real desire to blame women for any "issues" between the genders.

Hysteria:

In ancient Greek times women were not viewed in the same way as men. Women had very few rights. They were still under the control of men that held political office, and participating in the city-state or polis was prohibited. One of the possible reasons for this exclusion was due to their biology. Their constant mood swings and erratic behavior, which was referred to as "hysteria", made them incontinent and unable to make rational decisions. The concept of "hysteria" is described in Hippocratic Corpus. The "Wandering Uterus" was another familiar term that went hand in hand with "Hysteria" . It was an ancient Greek belief that "a wandering uterus" needed to be confined and controlled caused women's health problems.

Fact, not 'opinion'

academic.mu.edu/meissnerd/hysteria.html

Difficult to post someone else's opinion really Annie But actually the menaing of hysteria is just that-not opinion-fact!

That’s fine. Let bookshops withdraw Walliams books-you can bet Amazon won’t. I’m going to monitor how long our local bookshop will keep the books withdrawn. I bet they won’t publicise their reinstatement as loudly as they published their withdrawal. If Mr Walliams says he didn’t see or expect any of the unacceptable behaviour that took place, I suppose he deserves the same credence as we give to the hostesses who say they had no idea what to expect. What went on is wrong, but there’s a lot of ‘holier than thou’ going on at the moment.

Really Trisher? That is your opinion as was prostitution is ilegal is your opinion.

Hysteria is a word that has been used to condemn feminist activity for centuries. The word is without any value what soever. Based on strange beliefs about the behaviour of the uterus and how it affected women's behaviour. (It was believed to move around the body and cause all sorts of distress when it did so)

I don't think a 47 year old man is old, but as I am not married I accept wives here have a better understanding of old men as the majority are now married to old men ?

So you too Paddyann know the ages of all who attended .

No one has rights over anothers bodies but such a pity some do not have respect for their own bodies

I dont think anyone is saying ALL girls are naive or all men sex fiends ..what they are saying is working as a waitress/hostess SHOULDN'T give any man the right to treat them in the way these girls were treated.Sorry WOMEN ...though I have seen men in their 30's being called "boys" on here and no one bats an eyelid.People.men and women should be able to go to work and feel safe,having mega bucks doesn't give these old goats rights over womens bodies ...

Iam64 not a grumble, a very sensible post - that is only my opinion though, not a fact.

Should I shred all the David Walliams' books belonging to my DGC?

You can question all you want Annie but as you're not a book seller it really isn't up to you to decide what any shop owner decides to stock.
It isn't "naive" to think a woman should be able to walk about in a public place without someone thinking it is OK for him to grab hold of her. It is actually asserting your human rights. When the suffragettes demonstrated on Black Friday they were man handled and assaulted. Perhaps they were 'naive' to think they would be allowed to demonstrate outside parliament?