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The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

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TerriBull Thu 25-Jan-18 09:55:46

I expect this is going to divide opinion, but what's your take on the Men Only charity event that's all over the news. However, for those not familiar, a bevy of young women, many of them students, were recruited through an agency for this event, they had to be slim and good looking they were told to wear sexy shoes and black underwear to go under the very skimpy dresses provided.They also had to sign a five page disclaimer, which they didn't get to read and weren't given a copy of. A couple of female undercover FT journalists were also amoung these young women and testified to appalling behaviour by SOME of the male guests. To give a flavour of the offers guests were asked to bid for "Plastic surgery to spice up the Mrs" hmm Jess Phillips gave a very good speech in Parliament imo saying these young women who were expected to act as hostesses "were merely bait" Personally I find it sickening that the guise of charity is used as a way to negate the bad behaviour in this sort of evening. I believe some of the high profile charities such as GOSH have told the now defunct Presidents' Club, where to stick their money.

durhamjen Fri 26-Jan-18 18:27:50

Great Ormond Street Hospital has received more in donations because of this publicity than it handed back, so it's not losing out.
The woman who told all is backed by the FT's not inconsiderable legal department, just in case anyone at the club wants to sue her for breaking her agreement. After all, isn't this how tax fraud and wikileaks get exposed?

Bridgeit Fri 26-Jan-18 18:34:21

Jalima ,sorry perhaps I should have put P- -s ?

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 18:36:10

Oh, got it now!

That's good djen
What happens to all the money pledged now?

Bridgeit Fri 26-Jan-18 18:36:18

Ahh that’s good news Durhamjen .

Anniebach Fri 26-Jan-18 18:36:47

So women want to take away a woman's right to choose if she wants to be an escort, a hostess, a page 3 girl, a stripper , any work where there are men only because it's not done these days.

If the reporter isn't sued for breaking the agreement she signed then not one of the girls will be.

Wonder how many may sue for PTS

Bridgeit Fri 26-Jan-18 18:40:32

I don’t think that’s what is being said Annibach.

durhamjen Fri 26-Jan-18 18:43:38

Have you read the FT article, Annie?

NotTooOld Fri 26-Jan-18 18:50:14

jura2 - no, of course it does not mean that because it has gone for ever it is right. That's not what I meant. What I did mean is why is everyone so shocked and horrified as if they'd never heard of it before? It's a bit like saying 'Sex goes on at rock festivals? Well, how disgusting, who knew?' I think the word schadenfreude might fit. Hope I've spelled that right.

trisher Fri 26-Jan-18 18:57:09

Why would they sue for PTS? They could however sue for sexual harassment.

Anniebach Fri 26-Jan-18 19:08:15

They could be so traumatised !

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:09:50

It most definitely has NotTooOld and I know that this kind of thing has happened to my own DD (not that they were made to dress like that when waitressing though) and they dealt with it very deftly in a way which left no doubt.
However, these girls were 'set up' by the agency to behave like that imo and should have been pre-warned so that they make a choice of whether or not to work for them..

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:10:30

could make a choice

Anniebach Fri 26-Jan-18 19:30:02

It has been said the girls started work at 4.00pm. There were about 100 girls, we can assume they were not kept apart to change into their working clothes , some girls had been to this event in previous years. Did they not talk to each other ?
Were they not troubled by the skimpy uniform? Were they locked in the building , they could have left at any time, perhaps it was in the agreement they signed but it has been said they were not allowed to read it.

NotTooOld Fri 26-Jan-18 19:30:42

I think we must give credit to the undercover reporters, too. They did a good job and it must have been quite frightening for them.

durhamjen Fri 26-Jan-18 19:39:51

It's in the article, Annie.

Don't mind me asking, but which of you wouldn't mind your granddaughter standing next to someone who exposed himself to her while he was having his dinner?
You could say she could walk away, but once you've seen that, you can't unsee it.

There's another children's hospital which has handed back its money from this, the Evelina.
Both have justgiving pages for anyone who wants to donate.

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:46:10

oh, disgusting pervert.
I think my DD (even at 18) would have said 'put it away, it's not worth looking at' and would probably have got the sack.

Primrose65 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:46:55

I just looked up the President's Club on opencharities.org and it was created the day after Clinton was inaugurated.

How fitting.

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:48:08

Primrose
well I never did. How fitting indeed.

whitewave Fri 26-Jan-18 19:56:17

Note about Clinton. It’s got even worse since. Now they have Trump!!

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 19:57:00

Sleaze R Us

whitewave Fri 26-Jan-18 20:01:27

Gina Miller commented that the NDA cannot possibly be legally binding and those running the event know this. It is simply used as a bullying tactic, but how many of the women were aware of this?

trisher Fri 26-Jan-18 20:07:14

Anniebach not every man was a groper, not every girl was groped, perhaps the ones who were groped last year didn't turn up this year. So the old hands wouldn't be able to inform the new girls.
Would anyone who has expressed disapproval of the dress they wore like to say what they would find suitable? Should we stick women back in corsets and full length skirts and warn them not to show their ankles?

Grandmama Fri 26-Jan-18 20:14:14

Too many posts to read so not sure if anyone has mentioned the agency Artista. What sort of agency is it that would send young girls to an event like this with instructions on what to wear.

W11girl Fri 26-Jan-18 20:29:15

This sort of thing has gone in since time immemorial, however this no justification. The girls knew what they were going into purely by being told what they must wear. I heard something on woman’s hour this morning about banning all male do’s...what about the women’s institute? Let’s stop being so over the top PC ... we are becoming stifled by it!

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 20:31:43

Yes I agree, I mentioned them but didn't name them, and posted that it is run by a woman Grandmama.

Instructions on what to wear are one thing - eg for waitressing DD would know it was probably black skirt, white blouse/shirt, but the instructions were about the underwear and shoes and the skimpy dresses were provided by the agency.

Alarm bells should have rung surely?