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whitewave Tue 20-Feb-18 10:55:30

Anything intelligent about the official opposition or indeed any other political party seems to be underrepresented on here. So I thought I would start a thread giving news of parties policies etc other than the government’s.

I will kick off with a Reuters report on Corbyns speech.

“In a speech to the manufacturers section, Corbyn will pledge to rebalance the economy if labour get into power.
Corbyn argues that instead of finance serving industry, politicians have served finance, and we have seen where this ends, the productive e onomy, our public services and people’s lives being held hostage by too big to fail banks and casino financial institutions.

trisher Mon 26-Feb-18 11:43:30

But no questions about shoes- I suppose the PM is "authoritative" about them but nothing much else. Corbyn seems to be doing pretty well considering he is answering off the cuff.

Primrose65 Mon 26-Feb-18 11:39:10

Royal Mail is a natural monopoly because you only have one letterbox?

You decide.

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:38:11

Lots of questions on the single market as I would expect

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:35:30

Blimey primrose are you speaking with authority or bias?

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:34:52

A very wide reaching speech. It is always good to listen to the person first hand rather than getting the information through biased sources

Primrose65 Mon 26-Feb-18 11:33:24

He's not sounding so authoritative now he's answering questions from the floor. In my opinion.

trisher Mon 26-Feb-18 11:28:43

Isn't it weird that the Leader of the Opposition is speaking with such authority while the PM chooses to appear on This Morning and the One Show and answer questions about shoes!

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:24:16

Talking about global issues and Labour’s approach

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:17:40

Recognised that immigration is in part because of skills shortages
Labour will upskill the workforce

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:14:44

Cheap agency labour at the expense of workers in U.K. to be stopped.

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:13:43

National investment bank based throughout all the regions decades long of renewal of infrastructure

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:12:21

Environment and customer rights and employee rights are top priority.

We will never hive off the NHS.
We will never import crap meat

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 11:10:22

Outlining labour’s approach after Brexit.

Areas that voted brexit are areas where there is lowest investment and poorest folk
Rebalance of investment across the regions
Working people in U.K. should be priority not the wealthy
Remain part of various agencies
Complexity of trading issues means that common sense leads us to the conclusion that trade should be tariff free.
Remain in customs union and save the GFA, but will not accept the U.K. being the passive recipient of EU rules, Labour want an active participation in future trade deals.
Bespoke relationship should be sought

Disarray is the new strong and stablegrin

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 10:57:45

There won’t be much money after Brexit if we don’t stay in the single market.

whitewave Mon 26-Feb-18 10:54:57

Corbyn up talking

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Feb-18 10:33:27

Sorry, I should have said that having tried, if what the government comes up with is not tenable I still think that, democratically, parliament could vote against it.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Feb-18 10:32:21

I didn't like the Article 50 vote either Varian but I do understand why the LP had to back it. Corbyn appears to me to put a great deal of faith in democracy. People (including me) will argue about the outcome of the referendum but without any of the totally reasonable caveats there was a small advisory majority. Because of this I have a feeling, certainly directly after the vote, that the government and the opposition had to attempt to leave and find out what that was.

However, there was only a vote between "remain" and "leave". Whatever anybody said during the election that was all we voted on. That means that we can have any type of leave and Corbyn has always said they would protect jobs. His plan seems to be on the back of the research they have been doing on how best to look after the workers.

varian Mon 26-Feb-18 10:13:45

Coalition governments are far more likely under PR and you also find parties more equal in size . FPTP results in over-representation of parties who do not command a majority of support amongst voters.

durhamjen Mon 26-Feb-18 10:07:35

We had a coalition government in 2010 to 2015, without PR.

durhamjen Mon 26-Feb-18 10:07:04

No, varian, that's not the link.
Anyway, coalition governments does not mean the same as countries using PR.

varian Mon 26-Feb-18 09:51:40

A very large number of countries dj - here's the list if you want to count them-

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List of countries with coalition governments

durhamjen Mon 26-Feb-18 09:34:24

How many countries is that, varian?

varian Mon 26-Feb-18 09:27:59

I agree with the principle of parties working together dj as hapens all the time in democratic countries which use PR for elections. Our politics is far too confrontational.

varian Mon 26-Feb-18 09:24:37

I have watched the video whitewave and I agree with Corbyn on the right wing press . However I have not been impressed with his stance on brexit, especially when he enforced a three line whip for the Article 50 vote.

I don't think I am prejudiced- but I suppose we would all say that. I am a LibDem but have never been a big fan of Vince Cable.

I did vote Labour when we lived in a mining constituency in County Durham, but that was a long time ago.

durhamjen Sun 25-Feb-18 22:16:48

Corbyn dreadful? You'll be saying he was threatening next.

You're a libdem anyway - Liblab pact, libdem Tory coalition - did you agree with both of those as well, varian?