Grans Moral Maze

What is this faith where a large section live off benefits and have up to twelve children?

I agree with you whitewave, that decisions should be evidence based. Slightly off post but, if policy makers followed evidence based research we wouldn’t be living with the bedroom tax or the huge cuts to the Nhs and other public services.
I don’t appreciate the use of halal meat in school dinners or most supermarkets, imposed without discussion with consumers. I but little meat but always from our local butcher.
Circumcision is an assault, whether on boys or girls because infants and young children can’t give informed consent. I recognise religious sensitivities but believe it’s time that medieval practices were left behind. The law should protect children and prosecutions should follow

Oopsadaisy12 is this praying faith also found in the US? If so, I presume they are self supporting as there isn’t a welfare state over there. So, why can’t their own community pay them as I’m sure they won’t be praying for non-believers
like me.

The Icelandic vote is interesting. It’s a tiny country so the decision won’t affect many but to me it’s the equal opps side of the FGM debate. The Halal problem is awful and the cruelty of it goes against everything this country stands for so why we allow it concerns me. Less worried about the Jewish sect, there are lots of sections of the population who have no clue about our past and I can’t see that it impacts on us very much and they aren’t alone in their views.

How to satisfy all these conflicts? I think it ought to be for those who are affected to work round our way of life, not us bending to accommodate them. But that’s normal for the U.K. - trying to be all things to all men.

Personally I feel the best way forward is to ensure that all decisions, and these will be political at the end of the day be purely evidence based.

You simply cannot run a modern society on what are historical, non-evidence based ideas, it doesn’t work and is the cause of suffering and violence.

Understandable oopsadaisy.

This is a minefield!
Regarding the Halal meat , the Telegraph has a site that lists which supermarkets use Halal abattoirs , apparently all New Zealand lamb is Halal.
There is also a fairly large section of a certain faith that all live on benefits, as they are praying all day and so don’t have to go to work or interviews and most of these families have up to 12 children, There was a documentary recently
most of the time I have a live and let live attitude, but the Halal and the benefits issue really makes me cross.
Go figure.

I’ve posed some question in my usual garbled way - sorry about that - hope they make sense!