Labour back tracks and betrays the British public over Brexit.

The Labour Representation Committee was set up on 27th February 1900, the forerunner of the Labour Party.
As Keir Hardie said,
"Socialism proposes to dethrone the brute god Mammon and to lift humanity into its place."
Thank goodness for people like Corbyn and Starmer who are still trying to do that.

As Jonathan Lis said

“That our foreign secretary could be so casually joyfully ignorant about a conflict that killed thousands of people in living memory does not shock us because he has no further depths to plumb or disgrace to parade. But it should”

Central London post Brexit

mobile.twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/968417504140898305/photo/1

Does anyone really think that Corbyn is going say "I'm a communist"

Oh dear, every so often we get one of these logical fallacies. Can you tell me Wally, "when you stopped beating your wife?" Same idea as your suggestion above.

Ex-Liam Fox aide: Leaving EU is like swapping three-course dinner for crisps

Martin Donnelly says there’s ‘no evidence of untapped global markets waiting to welcome UK companies.’

CBI think Corbyn's speech was good.

Chuka Umunn on Johnson’s reaction to Corbyns speech

“So let’s get this straight: London’ borough boundaries can be compared to the border between two sovereign states which was central to a conflict in which over 3000 people died between 1969 and the signing of the Good Friday Agreement?
This man is simply not fit for office”

Tomorrow the EU is publishing its 100 page document.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-26/eu-said-to-stoke-brexit-tensions-with-100-page-draft-exit-deal

On Friday May will attempt to respond to both the EU, Corbyn and her rebels.
Or will she announce another back-me election?

petra Try this one:

"Everything but Arms (EBA) is an initiative of the European Union under which all imports to the EU from the Least Developed Countries are duty-free and quota-free, with the exception of armaments."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_but_Arms

And the Cotonou Agreement:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotonou_Agreement

Interesting comments by Dan Roberts. It seems as if we are beginning to see some pragmatism (at last).

Here's a very interesting link for anyone interested in how Brexit impacts on human rights.

rightsinfo.org/brexit/

Don't worry, lemon, I don't expect you to bother reading it.

petra

Yet another outing for the lie about the EU imposing tariffs on roasted coffee from African producers.

Do your research and and make your case honestly

See Jonathan Lis

Article by Dan Roberts on how Corbyn plans t square the circle.

Just a few extracts.

Can this tactic unlock the paralysis over Brexit? Corbyn gave a much more nuanced explanation than either party has offered before.

The key caveat
any new customs deal with the EU has to involve an agreement for both sides to also work together on future trade deals with the rest of the world which would be in our national interest.

Labour will not countenance a deal thatvwill leave the U.K. a passive recipient of rules decided elsewhere by others.

That is the key difference between what Tory moderates are offering and labour.

Critics say this sort of deal is far fetched, but wait a minute and think.

A dealbstruck say between the us and eu that failed to involve the U.K. and subsequently also led to the unravelling if the post Brexit cross channel trade agreement would be as undesirable for future trade negotiators as it is now.
A genuine unified bloc of eu and U.K. would stand a better chance of getting what it wants in Beijing or Washington than either could hope for operating alone.

This is the most honest attempt at squaring the circle yet.

Posting the odd link is ok , and yes, we don’t have to read them.

A simple sentence says so much, doesn't it. So is this the new Lemongrove rule - links are rationed?

I also think bombing a thread by posting three different sentences in three different posts is a stupid thing to do.
I wonder what your record is, lemon.

I've got to go, things to do but just to say. Does anyone really think that Corbyn is going say "I'm a communist"

Even Corbyn said in his speech, that leaving the EU does not mean doom.

No, he didn't. He most certainly did not say that just "leaving the EU" would not mean doom What he said was:

The truth is more down to earth and it is in our hands. Brexit is what we make of it, together; the priorities and choices we make in negotiations.

He seems to me - and I am if you "know" I am wrong you will soon tell me - to be saying that how we leave, which is a choice, will decide whether we have the opportunity to make a success of it.

Whitewave
You say that RM is getting a roasting Re comments.
I wonder if these people read anything about punitive tariffs on 3rd world countries.

This from a site called CAPX
"Take the example of coffee. In 2014 Africa - the home of coffee- earned nearly $2.4 billion from the crop.
Germany * a leading processor, earned about$3.8 Billion from coffee Re-exports"
As if Germany isn't rich enough already they screw some of the poorest.
And this for all the chocolate lovers. There is a 30% tariff on cocoa.

Sometimes it’s a form of ‘bombing’ a thread or site though and is a common method of drowning out other voices on forums ( happens on other forums as well.)
Posting the odd link is ok , and yes, we don’t have to read them.

The idea that we shouldn't reference people who are more knowledgeable than we are seems a very odd one. Do people actually want to remain ill-informed or do they just think they know better than everyone else? Some seem to wear this "I don't do links" etc., like a badge of honour.

It's not as is politics is the same as whether you prefer tea or coffee - there are other threads for that sort of chat. Politics, perhaps particularly currently, are complex and, as there are many political sources we can draw on to explain, extend our knowledge etc., sharing that knowledge is surely a good thing.

Accurately referencing your source helps others decide what and how much they want to take from it as does making it clear that something is just your "out of thin air" opinion.

MaizieD I know exactly what communism is as I have had friends who were communists and even a distant relative. I as a young man even went to meetings of the Socialist Labour League an extreme left wing organisation and went on marches in London with them. I listened carefully to their message and I came to my senses by becoming a supporter of the Labour Party.

So, ww you like a rebel do you? Does this include Labour MP’s who go against what Corbyn wants?

dj ..... we know that you and ww love posting links .

Even Corbyn said in his speech, that leaving the EU does not mean doom.

Oh dear, yet again there are silly personal remarks about a poster, this time it’s Wally getting it ,who always addresses posters politely and is a Labour voter!
Corbyns politics are of the Communist/Marxist type, yet so many are in denial about this.Wise up.