Labour back tracks and betrays the British public over Brexit.

whitewave All of these assessments are peoples opinions, just look at the things that were said about what would happen if we voted to leave the EU, none of them happened. Just prior to the banking crisis the IMF were in cloud cuckoo land they did not predict any of the things that happened so as a suggestion we all stop posting opinions as facts.

Agreed, whitewave. It also shows, if you look at the stats, that Corbyn did actually turn up and vote.

I like a rebel, it shows that they are willing to think and not follow like sheep.

Sorry, Wally, but I really think that you don't know what Communism is.

We don't care if you don't appreciate whitewave's posts, wally.
We do. We don't feel browbeaten at all. We are just grateful that whitewave has learnt how to do links at last.
You carry on moaning, though. It just makes us more certain that we are right.

Oh I thought we were in for a discussion about Brexit.
Instead you have returned with a rant, regurgitating the lie about communism and Corbyn.

What part of Corbyns speech yesterday indicated that he wants a communist regime in the U.K.?

wally if you look on social media, that nonsense has been well and truly buried.

You are wrong, POGS, but you don't need to guess.
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Most of the time he rebelled was between 2001 and 2010 and that was to do with war against Iraq, etc.

know knows

"Just as I think there is no such thing as democratic socialism"

So you are just going to ignore the countries where it works very successfully - they are rich as countries and come at the top of the "most democratic" lists but to you, they just don't exist. Is this because little old Wally sat in house know so much more than whole countries?

Just as I think there is no such thing as democratic socialism the two things are just incompatible, what as a previous Labour Party supporter we are looking for is humane capitalism with checks being done by the party and the trade unions. Corbyn the betrayer of brexit is turning Labour into an extreme left wing party called Communism where the only way it will be able to do the things they have said they will do will be through massive rises in taxation i.e Capital gains tax which I think will have companies heading for the hills, VAT, income tax, and a huge rise in national insurance. History is on my side. No country that has tried it has ever succeeded.

The first place you could start with is the risk and read the published information on the government impact assessments.

Then you could look at how imposing borders will impact on Ireland and the GFA, then you could understand how it will impact on business.

Next you could look at what losing the various agencies will mean.
That is a small start.

Just a small point. How can there be any facts about after we have left the EU? We haven't left yet.

No wally I have no intention of brow beating anyone I am using my right to post information and indeed facts which I think supports my argument.

You don’t need to take any notice of them whatsoever. But I hope these posts give points of division / information to others

This is what Sir Martin Donnelly has said

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whitewave If you think that by posting time and time again you will browbeat leavers into submission you really don't understand the British people. What you need are facts and as we have not yet left the EU they will be hard to come by.

Which ones?

whitewave You are making these opinions as if they were fact when in actual fact you haven't got a clue if any of them will come to pass.

wally.?

Fox the former disgraced foreign minister, is to make a speech today to outline why he should continue to keep his non- productive job, continuing to travel the world on his jollies.

What happened to Werrity? Anyone know?

Oh no he's not whitewave

Jo Maughen QC

Brexiters who pretended that they were about correcting a legal deficit in Europe are taking advisecas to how to by-pass Parliament”
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Rees-Mogg is getting a roasting on social media over his assertion that Brexit will help the poorest in the world and his lies over the EU tariffs on imported goods from Africa.

Social media means that these lies posted sonoften and with such apparent authority on MSM are all being called out for what they are

LIES

Back to the legal documentation for “full regulatory alignment” being drawn up by EU lawyers.

It is well recognised in the world of business that the one draws up the first draft is always at an advantage.
David Alan Green

God the U.K. government is b....y useless

Sir Martin Donnelly was until recently Fox's top advisor

“Leaving The CUband SM is like giving up a full three course meal for the promise of a packet of crisps”

Does Fox not realise that crisps are bad for you?

Oh dear what has happened to the Tory party.
They have always been seen as the traditional party of business, but no longer.

Fox has attacked business because it has the temerity to understand what is in the national interest and it isn’t Brexit, particularly the sort that he supports.

Does Fox not understand that a whopping 44% of our trade in goods is done with the EU.
Does Fox not understand the enormous burden he intends should there be no CU
Does Fox not understand the fantastic benefits a single market has brought to our businesses

It seems not.

Fox does understand hardline ideology
Fox does understand the fantastic amount of money many of his cronies are set to make come Brexit
Fox does understand the opportunity that Brexit will bring to make a huge bonfire of our protective regulations