Labour advisor : "You're white and your entire existence is drenched in racism.".

Don't forget Cornyn also appointed a VEGAN as his shadow cabinet person for the Department of Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs.

She would really have had the interests of Britain's farmers at heart, and their whole hearted support, wouldn't she!

NOT

Perhaps this is some kind of reverse political positioning, it will be Herod in charge of child welfare, and Hitler responsible for social integration next.

The model referred to above did appear on TV afterwards and explained how her outburst had come about, Her mother is white, half her family are white, she does not hate white people, she was talking about the historic context of racial inequality. I am not defending the above statements, it’s just that like many other things, she is being portrayed as some kind of hate figure. Maybe you should read or hear what she has said about it since.

She's one of six people advising Dawn Butler.
Any complaints about the other five?

By the way, phoenix, Hitler and Herod are dead.
You do know that the first person to mention Hitler has lost the argument, don't you?

Personally, the more airheads and extremists Corbyn gathers round him and dolls out positions to the happier I am (cronyism? Corbyn? Pull the the other one). It is just handing opportunity after opportunity to the Conservatives to use against him in the next campaign - and no, I don't want the Conservatives to win the next election either.

Ideally both the current major parties should be consigned to the dustbin and be replaced with two parties, better still, more than 2, that are not the slaves of worn out ideas.

So we were wrong to praise the suffragettes, we were praising racists.

How many black women owned property in 1918?
That's what she was saying. She was right about that, and has as much right to say it as you have to talk about the patron saint of Wales.

I agree with you Monica, isn’t it always the way that if you fight against injustice or predjudice, the balance flips away from acceptance & into intolerance of having an opinion if it doesn’t suit the latest real or perceived ‘rights’ of any given section of society.

And that Dj makes the suffragettes white extremists ?

DJ _ You do know that the first person to mention Hitler has lost the argument, don't you?

I think you'll find Labour's Ken Livingstone wins.

DJ you are fast becoming an apologist for the Labour party.
The fact remains that the person who spouted those awful words and condemned all white people, has now been welcomed into the Labour Party.

He/she may have backtracked but she was doing exactly the same as the vile woman Jo Varney who posted racist venom recently.

She was publicly shamed, just like Munroe Bergdorf, who was also sacked from her job.

No condemnation from Labour though.

I don't think Ken Livingstone is on this thread, is he?
What name does he write under?

Interesting to note that Sylvia Pankhurst could not marry her son's father as he was Italian.

Up until 1933 a woman marrying an alien would have had to take his nationality, so she would have lost her vote.
If she had been Italian, she could have married an English man and gained English nationality, as the woman was always considered to be the same nationality as her husband.

It's an interesting thought, particularly as it is quite well documented that, in Jamaica at least, 'free' black people, and coloured, themselves owned slaves. I found that hard to come to terms with.

I don't actually think that I disagree with Bergdorf; I'd just suggest that as poor white people were virtually indistinguishable from slaves in the way they were treated in the (British) Industrial revolution, that that should be acknowledged, too. Racism, yes, but callousness and inhumanity to all 'inferior' people is what drove our Empire and economic success.

Emmeline Pankhurst is quoted as saying, "I'd rather be a rebel than a slave."

Emneline Pankhurst was a white supremist

Durhamjen yes, actually I was aware that they were both dead, it was covered in the Daily Mail (tongue in cheek)
and with regard to your comment that the first person to mention Hitler has lost the argument, I wasn't arguing, I made no contradictory comment with regard to the OP, I was pointing out the absurdity of one of Corbyns previous appointments.

That does not constitute an argument, surely?

I've boycotted L'Oreal for years since they were bought out by Nestle.

"if you fight against injustice or predjudice, the balance flips away from acceptance & into intolerance of having an opinion if it doesn’t suit the latest real or perceived ‘rights’ of any given section of society.

Exactly Bridgeit.

Anyone else being so prejudiced/racist/bigoted/hateful would be scorned by Socialists.

There seem to be niches now within the Labour party designed to protect nasty people who'd otherwise be ostracised for their views. Dare I say Labour seem to be able to whitewash almost anything or anyone or any situation if it suits their needs. (Am I allowed to use 'white-wash' as a term in this particular conversation, I wonder? )

Whitewash, meaning : "a planned effort to hide a dishonest, immoral, or illegal act or nasty situation."

I think it was roses who always claimed that the first person to mention Hitler had lost the argument, phoenix.
She'd probably agree if she was on here.
Although maybe not as that would mean her having to agree with me!

How many black women owned property in 1918? Worldwide or in this country?
I presume she means proportionately?

How many white women owned property in 1918?
Come to that, how many people owned their own property in 1918?

In 1918 the vote in the UK was given to all women over 30 who owned their own homes or were married to someone who owned his own home, as well as men over 21.

Obviously, talking about suffragettes, I meant in this country.

Another interesting fact; in 1968 Emmeline Pankhurst was the first non-royal woman to be commemorated on a stamp.
Five years ago there had to be an online petition to ensure that there would still be a woman on a banknote.
Haven't we come a long way?

www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/04/munroe-bergdorf-on-the-loreal-racism-row-it-puzzles-me-that-my-views-are-considered-extreme