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Would Labour turn this country into a communist state?

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MaizieD Fri 02-Mar-18 21:53:23

I've been dipping in and out of the anti-Corbyn threads and I find that a persistent theme is, if Labour get into power they will try to impose communism on the nation.

What I'm really interested to know is what exactly do the people who claim this mean by 'communist' and how do they think a Labour government would achieve turning the UK communist?

durhamjen Sat 03-Mar-18 14:33:55

It can't be, Maizie.
If it was, the Corbyn/ Momentum thread would not have been allowed.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 03-Mar-18 14:02:18

Another reminder to please air your views without belittling those of anyone else.

Are you serious Cari? So may we now report anyone who belittles the views any one of us expresses?

MaizieD Sat 03-Mar-18 13:25:57

I quote part of the O/P, " I have been dipping in and out of the anti Corbyn thread and I find a persistent theme is etc"

A thread about a thread

Well, I didn't want to derail the anti Corbyn thread so I thought I'd start a new one because I genuinely wanted to find out what posters actually mean't by 'communism' and how they thought a Corbyn led government could take us too far down the 'communist' path

Is taking a theme from another thread and starting a completely new thread on it against the Gnet rules?

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Sat 03-Mar-18 12:52:23

Another reminder to please air your views without belittling those of anyone else. It's absolutely fine to disagree of course - there's no reason that we should all share the same views - but it contributes far more to the thread if this can be done without resorting to personal attacks and the like

durhamjen Sat 03-Mar-18 12:29:51

So how do you think a labour government could turn the UK communist, monica?

M0nica Sat 03-Mar-18 12:28:06

Oh, the naivete of those who think it couldn't happen here. That is the best way of ensuring it happens.

We never thought a rightwing neo-liberal conservative government would be elected and re-elected in the UK, but we got one.

Anniebach Sat 03-Mar-18 12:25:28

I quote part of the O/P, " I have been dipping in and out of the anti Corbyn thread and I find a persistent theme is etc"

A thread about a thread

suzied Sat 03-Mar-18 12:22:46

I was trying to have an erudite discussion on political ideologies which is what I thought this was about. (Sigh)

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 12:21:08

I don’t take the moral ground. But I do when compared to the criticism of labour.

You could count on one hand if you are lucky the amount of posts actually criticising labour policy - they are really difficult to find.

lemongrove Sat 03-Mar-18 12:17:42

Yes, ww I have got a sore head ?lunchtime methinks.

lemongrove Sat 03-Mar-18 12:16:50

Oh ww grin the shallow posts critising Tory MP’s for their looks and how they behave etc!! On the many threads we have had on GN.
And why not, I say, but please!do not try and take the moral high ground on that.

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 12:15:23

Anyone else got a sore head from all this head against brick wall phenomena?

GracesGranMK2 Sat 03-Mar-18 12:12:58

Apart from the nationalsation bits I want those things too,

The issues and challenges come why people start to realise that they want those things but are not at all sure they want everyone else to have those things particularly if, from time to time during their lives they may be paying so others can have them . Then they vote Tory.

lemongrove Sat 03-Mar-18 12:12:37

Where am I defending any policies by any Party at all ww?
I am pointing out what we already have.
Nowhere have I, or anybody else said, that there will be a Communist State.We have been a democracy for a very long time and I imagine always will be.
Some posters are in denial about Corbyn and McDonnell and their Marxist/Communist leanings.
This does not mean we will become a Communist State.

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 12:12:23

I think if you look at the vast majority of post they are criticising Tory POLICY

The vast majority of Corbyn et al criticism is of the man and not labour policy.

Criticising the man not the policy is shallow and indicates a lack of political intelligence

durhamjen Sat 03-Mar-18 12:05:29

Good post, Vampirequeen. That's socialism, not communism, including the bit about renationalisation.

lemongrove Sat 03-Mar-18 12:04:27

Yes Annie precisely!
Some people are very fragile about their own politics it seems,, and cannot take a bit of criticism where it is concerned.
Do I care which politicains others complain and criticise?
Not a bit.

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 12:03:44

lemon if you want those too, you would never consider voting Tory, but you continue to defend their policies, so are you a bit muddled?

durhamjen Sat 03-Mar-18 12:02:56

If it is a thread about a thread, or against HQ rules, then they will pull it and tell us why.
But lemon can't say she never said anything about communists taking over when she said it on the first page of a thread she started particularly about such a thing.

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 12:01:45

I wouldn’t have said so annie

The op asked a question about what people think communism actually means and we are answering.

No problem with that.

durhamjen Sat 03-Mar-18 12:00:19

Therefore, lemon, you were talking about a communist takeover of the government.
I suppose it was all of nine days ago, on the first page of your Corbyn/Momentum thread, so difficult for you to remember saying it.
So perhaps you can explain how you think there could be a communist takeover of the government.
You do keep going on about Lansman leading Corbyn and telling Corbyn what to say and do.
I'd also like to know how you know that.

lemongrove Sat 03-Mar-18 11:59:52

vq
Apart from the nationalsation bits I want those things too,
but free university expenses can never happen without plunging the country ito massive debt.As far as I am aware we already have the right to have faith or no faith without intimidation ( there are laws to protect us). There are also many,many good schools.
There are also many government funded construction projects and help for small businesses in place.

Anniebach Sat 03-Mar-18 11:58:29

Is this not a thread about a thread ?

Anniebach Sat 03-Mar-18 11:57:30

Why is any criticism of Corbyn an attack which warrants an attack on a poster yet criticisms of Tory MP's is daily fodder on here

whitewave Sat 03-Mar-18 11:55:01

lemon it must be difficult to see out of your hole by now. Still if you do insist on continual digging!!