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GracesGranMK2 Thu 08-Mar-18 09:20:23

Simple title so should be easy to update everyone with any bits of knowledge we gain.

Primrose65 Wed 14-Mar-18 16:39:26

No one has said the people of Russia are to blame GGMk2! I think everyone has made that quite clear.

Many Labour MPs disagree with you and the press release from Seamus Milne has already been quoted by Russia Today to protest the 'innocence' of the Russian state. They have not written anything that isn't true here, in my view. I think Corbyns words were carefully chosen.

lemongrove Wed 14-Mar-18 16:38:20

Do things by the book? In what way was the government proposing to do them by, then?
The people of Russia are not to blame? That’s the art of stating the bleeding obvious.
What jingoism, where?
Perhaps if you lived in Salisbury GGM2 you may be feeling a teeny bit different, and would then feel like
supporting the government.

lemongrove Wed 14-Mar-18 16:33:44

Paddyann I was referring to the statement made by T May after PMQ’s about what measures will take place regarding Russia.Then came Corbyn’s statement.
Granted, I didn’t make that clear in my post, and of course he will say opposing things, as he did earlier with his NHS questions, which is natural.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 14-Mar-18 16:31:33

Yes, Corbyn just couldn’t agree with what the government

The conversation on here does become very childish at times. Corbyn did agree. He pointed out that we need to do things by the book - as the leader of the opposition should and mentioned that the people of Russia were not to blame - both of which are true and cannot be said by May.

The one thing we can do without is jingoism and the balance in parliament (barring the braying from the Conservative benches) was a good one in this instance, in my opinion.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 14-Mar-18 16:21:17

At times I wonder why I stay a member of the Labour Party

That is the one of the unanswered questions of life for many of us Annie.

Primrose65 Wed 14-Mar-18 16:10:37

Didn't realise you spoke on behalf of Stephen Hawking Jen!

Looks like Corbyn was not speaking on behalf of a few of his MPs though today. There's a motion being scrambled apparently by a group of MPs (who might be looking forward to spending more time with their family in the future) and rumours about people stepping down from the front bench.

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 15:42:42

Do you Jen? and often? you must have a lot of time on your hands,

Bridgeit Wed 14-Mar-18 15:39:07

In answer to your question GG , I wouldn’t have a problem with JC in a coalition government, because they would have to work together for the good of ALL, not the many & not the few. I believe the time has come to strive for a middle ground , but I guess that’s just my fairytale dream.

durhamjen Wed 14-Mar-18 15:30:20

Why shame on Corbyn for saying he has agreed with Hawking about the NHS? Hawking would be pleased that Corbyn used PMQs to ask questions about the NHS.
You do realise that Hawking was among the group going to take Hunt to court over the way he has run the NHS down, don't you?
I would be surprised if Hawking wanted the group to give up now.

I have wondered quite often why you stay a member of the labour party, Annie.

paddyann Wed 14-Mar-18 14:56:45

its not his job to AGREE with the government Lemongrove ..he's the OPPOSITION ...I do see that its difficult to find a difference in his and Tory policies ...especially with all his abstaining and voting WITH the tories but surely even he must do what he was voted in to do and thats OPPOSE the tory ideology based austerity thats crippling millions and causing misery UK wide .

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 14:27:53

I fear for Ben Bradshaw at the run up to next election

lemongrove Wed 14-Mar-18 13:41:18

Yes, Corbyn just couldn’t agree with what the government had to say today, could he, he always has to be a maverick even within his own party.
Shows the public that it would be a huge mistake to ever let this man get into number ten!

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 13:29:59

At times I wonder why I stay a member of the Labour Party, PMQ today when many Labour MP's supported the governments actions against Russia reminded me , there are many good Labour MP's on the back benches

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 12:16:39

PMQ. Corbyn ' as I said to Professor Stephen Hawkings '

How low will he sink , shame on him

mostlyharmless Wed 14-Mar-18 11:44:47

Corbyn is the new Thatcher.
Wow! Where did that come from!
People either love him or hate him perhaps? Is that what you mean Annie?

POGS Wed 14-Mar-18 10:37:13

Bridgeit Tue 13-Mar-18 22:40:55

I agree.

lemongrove Wed 14-Mar-18 09:21:03

grin Annie

GracesGranMK2 Wed 14-Mar-18 09:03:54

Thank you. It seems an different point of view to others we have heard.

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 09:02:49

Yes I could GG

GracesGranMK2 Wed 14-Mar-18 09:01:52

That's interesting Annie. Could you expand in what way?

Anniebach Wed 14-Mar-18 08:45:08

for me Corbyn is the new Thatcher, this is troubling

GracesGranMK2 Wed 14-Mar-18 00:31:09

It doesn't make you bad or witless at all Bridgeit. During the 1930s we had a government of National Unity to pull us out of the problems but we are probably too late to do that now. If the parties had been prepared to do that after the global financial crisis it might have worked and been better for the country but they didn't do it then and I doubt you could persuade either side now.

You have to admit you generally attack Corbyn - not as much as some but you seem to almost personally dislike him not just his politics. I may have got that wrong but it is what has come over. How then would you feel with him in government? He would be if we had a National Unity government.

Bridgeit Tue 13-Mar-18 23:50:05

I don’t have a problem with contemplating a coalition party.I don’t think that makes me a bad or witless person .

lemongrove Tue 13-Mar-18 23:47:43

Primrose ! Our first applicant, come in....

Bridgeit Tue 13-Mar-18 23:47:17

Ahh sorry Primrose, yes I can see now you were referring to GGs comments .

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