The Labour Party

I do not hate, I dislike Corbyn, I dislike hypocrisy and I believe him to be a hypocrite,

I do not trust Lansman . McDonald. McClusky. Corbyn

I am a long time member of the Labour Party and remain so , I support Welsh Labour , if good Labour MP's are de selected I will leave the party . So I do not sort of support the party I have worked for for over fifty years ,I support it fully, I do not, will not, cannot, support Corbyn and pray he will never be PM , if he does it will be the death of the Labour Party and the first communist government in the U.K.

good post Jalima??

despite sort of supporting the Labour Party.

Lots of people sort of support the opposition -
Often the government of the day goes too far or veers off course, so come a GE, people vote for the party they think will put the country to rights again.

Some voters even sort of support other parties too, but are prepared to listen to all sides and are not blinkered.

That's why we don't end up with the same party in power all the time.

My comment was to the previous comment by trisher the last few sentences to be precise, nothing to do with Corbyn.

and I do not trust Seamus Milne either.

I despair when politics becomes a most popular celebrity competition,
No, it's not.
I do not trust him
I do not trust Lansmann
I do not trust McDonnell

There are a lot of Labour politicians who, I understand, feel the same.

If we're talking about a popular 'celebrity' competition, then the rather dour Keir Starmer would not win - but he does appear to have the qualities that would make a good leader imo.
If anyone is talking about 'celebrity', then it seems to me that there is rather a 'cult' around Jeremy Corbyn which I and many others do not subscribe to.

However, I could probably spend a nice afternoon down on the allotment with him, or getting some tips on jam-making, or chatting about his mum.

lemongrove and I can’t believe the joyful and spiteful hysteria on this thread.
Ok some of you hate Corbyn, despite sort of supporting the Labour Party. Well why not do something positive and actually join the Labour Party? Then you can vote for the Leader YOU prefer.

GN needs a ‘I can’t believe what is being said’ emoji.

I didn't say I was cross Jalima1108 I asked how you could justify your support of this government, although it is unspoken and surreptitious. You seem to think that not liking Corbyn is an excuse for all sorts of things. I despair when politics becomes a most popular celebrity competition,
POGs I have no idea who was responsible for the actions in Salisbury. The fact that the nerve gas was originally Russian may link it to Putin's government but there all sorts of other possibilities. What I object to is a knee jerk reaction from the government, designed only to deflect from their abominable record and establish Theresa as the new saviour of the nation. And whoever did it it was damned convenient. Have you seen anything about the despicable free school meals deal with the DUP on the news?

Mind you, I thought Paul Daniels really was a wizard.

A question I have asked before.

It is said Russia 'influenced' the EU Referendum .

It is said Russia 'influenced' the American Elections.

It is said Russia ' influenced' the German Elections.

Why not say Russia might have therefore ' influenced ' the UK Elections in favour of a party and a politician they feel closer to?

Conspiracy theories......that way madness lies.??

Could explain much if Dj is correct

interesting theory

So if Russia had a hand in the U.K. Election it could explain how Labour shot up from being so far behind the Tory party ?

trisher Sat 17-Mar-18 11:51:15
Maybe I'm just cynical but seeing the mess currently being classed as government in this country the advent of a Russian enemy is a bit too convenient.

durhamjen Sat 17-Mar-18 12:02:40
Trisher, I read yesterday that it was to stop the US enquiry into Russian and US collusion in the referendum and the two elections. I can quite believe that.
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Am I correct in thinking you both see the attempted murders in Salisbury as an act by the UK or US governments to take away what you perceive to be problems within their governments?

I don't know who it was at the BBC who thought it looked like a Russian fur hat but they either don't know much about fashion or don't get out much

Any Questions was interesting today.

Corbyn usually wears a Lenin cap, and yes Jalima I have a fur hat that looks similar to the hat in the pic.?

No biting the bullet for me where Comrade Corbyn is concerned!
Starmer would make a good Leader I think but would not be elected now that the LP has gone so far to the left.

That’s the trouble now that Momentum and the unions are running things and Corbyn a puppet leader.

trisher why does supporting Starmer mean nothing? He's my local MP.

Fri 16-Mar-18 22:21:37

Actually mostlyharmless I think the peaked cap looks more like a Russian worker's hat and the cosy fur hat on the right looks like one I would wear!

How the Russians will be cheering. They want to undermine our system of government and here you are enabling this process.
Does that mean we all have to get behind Theresa May and the Tories and Corbyn and Momentum?

I think that being able to criticise the leader of a party is part of our system of government; stifling free speech and opposition is what happens in Russia.

Therefore, logically, any attempt to stifle opinions about Corbyn on here would be enabling the process surely?

Just couldn’t do it Trisher., he has & is taking the Labour Party in a direction I can’t agree with. It is the duty of the Labour Party to recognise this & act accordingly , rock & a hard place I think.

It doesn't at the moment but hopefully things could change in the future.

And it is between me and my conscience how I vote - even if it is wasted. I do care but would rather spoil my ballot paper than vote for Corbyn.

I'm sorry if that makes you cross.