Gransnet forums

News & politics

Cambridge Analytica

(295 Posts)
OldMeg Wed 21-Mar-18 07:12:06

This is certainly an eye opener.

Has anyone been following the story? Channel 4 News did an excellent exposé.

Jalima1108 Wed 21-Mar-18 20:38:37

I think it is the height of patronising bullshit to think voters are so easily swayed.
Gosh, a bit of common sense shining through.

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 19:48:35

Guardian reporting.

MPs calling for an investigation over SCL and its access to sensitive and classified documents

durhamjen Wed 21-Mar-18 19:46:09

Hope you pay your BBC licence fee, baggs.

MaizieD Wed 21-Mar-18 19:45:59

We are all to a greater or lesser degree susceptible to and influenced by things MaizieD which is why advertising and marketing are such important tools.

Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs, lemon. Fancy me not knowing that... [wish we had an eye roll emoticon]

Then why are all these flawless posters denying that anything influences them, or anyone else?

Morgana Wed 21-Mar-18 19:41:27

Haven't watched the news yet today, but thought it interesting that the TV media seems to have concentrated on the effect on the American election - no mention of the effect on the outcome of the referendum. Was there not also the suggestion that the info. from FB was actually paid for?
What I found frightening was the idea that personalities can be pigeon holed so easily - or am I just naive? Going to make it very easy for the robots to take over ........

Baggs Wed 21-Mar-18 19:25:32

Same here, primrose.

As it happens, I've changed my view about the media giants quite recently. When Facebook et al were first being called publishers I objected o that idea because, as I saw it, FB did not "publish" anything I put on my page; I did. FB enabled my publishing of whatever material I wanted to post on FB.

Now though, I think that the media giants of online communication have developed enough and have become powerful enough that new rules are needed. What goes public, what is put in the public sphere by groups like LeaveUK should be subject to the same sort of political campaign advertising rules as what's published on TV and in newsprint.

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 19:18:17

primrose your replies seem to suggest that you have neither seen the programme, read the reports.

Primrose65 Wed 21-Mar-18 19:15:17

What 'I feel' is pretty irrelevant. Let the ICO take a look and come to a conclusion. I'll get excited when someone ends up in court.

Tegan2 Wed 21-Mar-18 19:08:06

So, do you feel they have done nothing wrong? Maybe at other times in history people have felt that way.....do we never learn??

Primrose65 Wed 21-Mar-18 19:02:03

“It doesn’t have to be true it just has to be believed”

Much like the allegations against CA.

Primrose65 Wed 21-Mar-18 19:00:13

Cambridge Paralytica grin

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 18:55:58

Quote from the programme”

“It doesn’t have to be true it just has to be believed”

£350 million a week for the NHS
Exactly the same benefits
Taking back control
Brexit dividend
Leaving is easy
Undemocratic EU
They need us

petra Wed 21-Mar-18 18:50:53

baggs
It's up there with the best pearl clutching stories. They're going to wear them away if they're not careful.

Baggs Wed 21-Mar-18 18:47:24

And I am awed by the perfect posters who are not in the slightest bit influenced by anything at all

I am awed by the posters who seem to be in a permanent state of anxious alarmist dread. Beats me how they keep it up. I'd want tranquillisers if I were in that state.

lemongrove Wed 21-Mar-18 18:35:42

We are all to a greater or lesser degree susceptible to and influenced by things MaizieD which is why advertising and marketing are such important tools.
Lots of online forums are used as info gathering tools.If you don’t want it used, don’t put it out there is the best advice.
There are rules and regs even so.

petra Wed 21-Mar-18 18:33:22

Cambridge Paralytica
Everyone should share that. It deserves more than a chuckle, baggs

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 18:30:14

I suppose all the evidence of leave uk etc hasn’t been got rid of yet.

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 18:19:45

No warrant issued yet. Blimey! What on earth is going on?

MaizieD Wed 21-Mar-18 18:14:09

Have the scoffers ever seen some of the 'ads' which were being targeted at voters on FB by Leave EU?

I know at least one Leaver who would believe every one of them...

twitter.com/nickreeves9876/status/976434758694600705

And I am awed by the perfect posters who are not in the slightest bit influenced by anything at all

lemongrove Wed 21-Mar-18 18:07:21

Exactly baggs well said, all this constant Chinese whispers
And conspiracy theories, if CA have broken laws then they will pay the price, but this stuff ( analysing personal data) in order to either get people to buy stuff, vote a certain way and influence them has been going on for ages.

petra Wed 21-Mar-18 18:05:40

patronising bullshit
Love it grin

Baggs Wed 21-Mar-18 18:04:09

PS. just spotted a Twitter account called Cambridge Paralytica. Chuckle.

lemongrove Wed 21-Mar-18 18:03:31

baggs some people blame the weather on the Tories.grin

Varian says ‘The Brexit result could not have been achieved without this skullduggery* ......oh yes it could! ?

Baggs Wed 21-Mar-18 17:59:09

I have access to the Guardian and BBC News, ww, same as everyone else.

But I also look at more level-headed stuff (which is not to say that the Guardian and the BBC are never level-headed).

I think it is the height of patronising bullshit to think voters are so easily swayed.

And anyway, Obama used similar tactics. Nobody seemed to mind then. Thought it was really clever in fact.

If data protection laws have been broken then go get 'em but apart from that... shrug.

varian Wed 21-Mar-18 17:53:13

There is absolutely no doubt that in the 2015 GE the Tories spent a fortune on data mining and voter targeting to attack and undermine the LibDems, especially in the South West of England. Whether the work was done by Cambridge Analytical or some similar practitioner in the dark arts, it does make a mockery of our so-called democracy.

The Brexit result could not have been achieved without this skullduggery. Now that this scandal is being exposed, that fraudulent referendum should be declared null and void.