Get ready , a birth soon to be announced

Firstly M0nica they are about as ordinary as the man in the moon .

Secondly there’s nothing wrong with wearing second hand clothes it just saddens me that my DD couldn’t be like many other hard working young mums to be and buy new clothes for her long awaited baby. Yes my baby son wore second hand (and third and fourth hand) clothes back in 1980 when I had nothing. I just hoped for better for my grandchild.

What we know of Prince Phillip he quite possibly instructed - no bloody fuss .

Their staff are not people who drive to work every day, clock on and off. At one time queenie's private secretary was Sir Robert Fellows, Diana's brother in law. When Tiggy had William and Harry after their parents divorce, she is the daughter of Princess Anne's lady in waiting,

Prince Phillip was in hospital for 11 days, hardly weeks!!!! and to be honest it really isn't anyone else's business how any family behaves towards each other! What suits one doesn't suit others, nothing weird about that!

Gillybob why is using secondhand rather than new clothes automatically considered a poor second best? My instinct is always to reuse or rescue or buy secondhand and only if that fails, buy new. That applies whether for myself or family - and it is not poverty driven.

My children until they were about 5 wore hand me downs from friends, or clothes bought from charity shops. I was dressedly similarly when I was young and still have no hang-ups about doing the same today. I would be hard pressed to find a single piece of bought new furniture in my house.

As for your hang=up about the Royal family, they strike me as very ordinary people and rather dull compelled to live extrodinary lives. If I want to met the real odd balls, eccentrics and completely barking mad. I need only walk the half mile from my house to the village shop, Almost all my neighbours are delightfully off the wall.

Ooh MOnica can I come and live in your village - sounds great!

I really don’t have a “hang up” with the royals m0nica they don’t effect me or mine one iota .

Second hand clothes are fine. What matters to me is clean clothes.
I am on holiday in India at the moment. The contrast between rich and poor here is extreme++. Wealthy Indian children in private school clothes looking as if they came out of the 60s compared to street children living in home-made shacks who are filthy. I knew it would be like this but it remains shocking.

DH used to say the same thing when he travelled to India for work.

mumofmadboys The contrast between rich and poor in India is so extreme; little girls are still sold to temples as 'handmaidens', little boys controlled by gangmasters, diving for money in the filthy Ganges and the rich become even richer.

My DGC are always delighted to receive a bag of second hand clothes, as were my DC. And my DD decided that trawling the charity shops for excellent clothes is preferable to the rubbish that passes as 'fashion' in the shops these days.

Undoubtedly more extreme contrasts in India but the difference between the haves and have nots remains the same .

Anyway I’ve washed the clothes and they’re mostly okay . Still sad that my hardworking DD in 2018 is scouring charity shops for clothes for her much wanted and long awaited baby.

gillybob I do find it strange that well-meaning (I suppose) people will send clothes and other gifts to the new Royal baby.

Now, that is not the fault of Kate and William and I hope they do pass them on to a deserving cause, but I have a friend who spent a long time knitting a beautiful 2 ply shawl for Prince George and was excited when she thought she saw him wrapped in it.
I just thought Why?

I knit for refugees.

I think those who knit for royal babies do so because they are devoted royalists and feel they have a connection with the family

Gillybob - If your grandbaby (or indeed the new Royal) were born in Scotland, they would be given, via their midwife, a baby box which can be used as a very safe crib and contains everything a new born could need for the first months. All this brand new and free as a gift from the Scottish Government.

The thinking behind this is that all babies should be born equal and have the best possible start in life.

www.foreveramber.co.uk/free-baby-box-scotland

For all those in the wings about to complain about the baby box..people who dont NEED the help dont have to fill in the form.It is available for all babies though if the parents want it...In these tough times for young families every little bit helps .

What a good idea.

Why on earth would anyone complain about the baby box paddyann? Its a brilliant idea and something that Finland has been doing since the 1930s.

Gillybob quite a few NHS Trusts across the UK are doing the baby boxes now too. I don't know whereabouts in the country you are but it might be worth Googling your maternity hospital to see?

I'm sure a similar thing happened when I had my baby.
They sent me, (I think it was for everyone) home from hospital with a baby pack, with samples of everything.

that would have been a Bounty bag MissAdventure just samples from a selection of suppliers.The baby box has a list of things that are essentials for a newborn and for the first months.The reason I thought there would be moans is that whenever the SNP are involved, then on this site and many others the general concensus is that SNP BAD ....I was just pre empting the phrase

Me too MissA but the new ones are a cardboard box complete with:
Mattress, mattress cover and fitted sheet
Cellular blanket
Hooded bath towel and bath sponge
Digital thermometer
Play mat and changing mat
Reusable nappy and liners
Long-sleeve and short-sleeve vests
Sleepsuits
Socks and scratch mitts
Fleece jacket
Jersey trousers/jogging bottoms
All-in-one day suit
Books for young babies
Chew toys
Wrap for carrying a baby

They're currently being given at the following NHS Trusts, as well as in Scotland:

Some other hospital trusts in England have also introduced baby boxes - including the North Middlesex and Whittington hospitals in North London, Colchester, Ipswich, Wigan, the Royal Berkshire in Reading and Birmingham Women's Hospital.

My daughter was the first in her town to receive a baby box- the postalworkers at the sorting office were all most excited to see it when she went to collect it.

In all honesty, the box itself isn't very useful, you wouldn't want to put a baby to sleep in it because it has to go on the floor and that makes it very awkward for getting the baby in and out, especially at night. It's also dangerous if you have a pet, which is more to jump in at floor level.

I do like the idea of a baby box to welcome a new child but unfortunately, there is no evidence that it improves outcomes for babies. In Finland the babybox is conditional on the mother attending antenatal clinics by a certain stage of pregnancy, which hopefully does give the baby some extra protection but there are no such requirements in Scotland.

I was speaking to a health visitor recently and she said that every single one of her mums had claimed the box, irrespective of income. She wished it could be more targeted, with even more help for those who require it. So, a mixed blessing, I think.

I haven't previously looked at this thread and haven't much now – but I did think "Jesus Christ"!

Jesus was given Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh, not changing mats or vests.