Allygran you have possibly misunderstood my comments of yesterday about the NHS and NIC contributions. I was not discussing 'health tourism' ( although I certainly do not believe it is as extensive as some would have us think), I was talking about people who are 'entitled' to use the services. My comparison was, that as someone who has had the good fortune to have good health and little use of the NHS, I have no problem with those who have greater need taking out more than they may have put in. This is my view of the EU, and I think that the security of having countries 'inside' the EU is worth the cost. I have been out and about all day, and apologise for delay in my reply, but I see you have managed to lecture and preach to the converted today, and your supporters are still there, applauding as ever. The comments about the gang of four ( am I one of them? I hope so) are unnecessary and unwelcome and I will put this and your other hidden snarky digs down to the heat.