Now Sajid Javid suffers racist abuse from Corbyn supporters.

I agree with Oldwoman poor taste and lack of judgement. I don't care what party he is from racism is racism and needs to be condemned by everyone. Why was it necessary to refer to Sajid Javid's parents, particularly as his father is dead and his parents appear to have instilled a strong work ethic in all their children.

Adonis might have posted the cartoon primarily as a dig at Home Office policy of deporting immigrants, but unfortunately there was clearly a racist element to the cartoon too.
I agree it was in very bad taste.

No wonder the H of L needs reforming!!

Lord Adonis?!!!! A so called educated man? I'm just astonished that he could give more than a cursory glance at such a cartoon, never mind post it! lost for words!

Lord Adonis has had to apologise for posting a "cartoon" about Mr. Javid. It basically shows a cartoon of Mr Javid sitting at his desk saying, "I just want to settle in, get organised and then deport my parents". Whilst this may not be considered too bad, following on from the abuse he was subjected to on his appointment it does show very poor taste and lack of judgement on the part of Lord Adonis.

Owen Jones considers himself a fourth generation socialist, his parents met as members of the Trotskyist Militant Tendency. And his grandfather was involved with the communist party , At one time Jones was parlimentry researcher for McDonald

I don't think the DM will ever be considered ok by lefty Guardian readers Petra. Mind you, that is the liberal, anything goes, right-on, anti British paper favoured by the awful Owen Jones and those a who sneer at the DM. It's the left wing sibling of the DM in truth. .

What surprises me is Corbyn has more support than any leader in Europe yet the DM is the highest selling newspaper

Grannycarrots
Who was it that didn't give up on the securing a jail sentence for the pond life that murdered Stephen Lawrence: the DM.

I thought it was 'safe' to mention the DM now

Tablet typing...grrr. 'Oh'...and 'Sajid'.

On the frothing at the mouth. Love the OTT distress when the DM is mentioned. OFT

If it helps GrannyCarrots you'll find Sanid Javid's remarks about the hostile environment of the Labour party recorded in Hansard and the fact that he was called vile racist names by Corbyn supporters. It's true ( sadly) whether you like it or not. I see you're more riled about the newspaper rather than the Labour supporters' racism.

It's the Daily Mail!!!!!!! Of course they have such articles!!! The Brothers Grimm told better tales!
If anyone airs racist remarks of any sort, they are hardly real Corbyn supporters! They may hide under a guise of being 'Labour', but as Corbyn is clearly anti-inequality the how can they be true supporters? It's oxymoronic!!

lemongrove this was a woman brought here as a child, raised here and then arrested, held at Yarl's Wood and told she would be deported to the Congo a country she hadn't seen since childhood. I'm not sure what her legal position was, but she certainly had no choice about her entry to this country legal, or illegal, as a child. The Windrush generation are not the only people who suffer from our immigration laws and the existence of places like Yarl's Wood.
There is a valid case I think for acepting children who were brought here, and have lived here, for many years as legal residents.

I'm sure the complaints the women are making in that blog are real. The trouble is we don't have any corroboration. We don't know what the back stories are and so on.

One thing that did come across in my reading of the blog entries is that some of the speakers (the blog is written by people not in detention who write it from what they are told in phone conversations with detainees) seem to think that because they have been in the UK for years then they have a right to stay based simply on that even if their initial entry was illegal. I think that is the crux of the problem; one of them anyway.

Trying to imagine myself in that position, I cannot come up with any feeling of 'right' to stay in a country where I do not have citizenship. Want, yes; right, no.

I think it is highly likely that asylum processes need to be more streamlined at the same time as wondering how. I can imagine it being quite hard to obtain information from the countries from which people hale about why they have left (the back stories referred to above) and so on.

That’s a good quote baggs ??

trisher are you now saying that was written by one of the Windrush generation?
Earlier you said they were mainly from African countries.
You are being very argumentative when you have no knowledge really of the true picture and assume everyone and everything is ‘racist’.

"...good-faith debate and compromise become impossible once one side has painted the other as inveterate bigots..."

Michael Shermer

lemongrove your remark trisher you are naively believing every word of this ‘ one woman’s story’ in fact the vocabulary used sounds very much like a native British speaker to me
Is about as racist as it can get.Implying these women are asylum seekers, therefore they cannot speak or write English, they are uneducated and cannot express themselves. Actually some of the women came here as children and were educated and worked here until they were arrested and threatened with deportation to a country they had not seen since they were children.
The woman's story came from Detained Voices. You can read it and other harrowing accounts here detainedvoices.com/tag/yarls-wood/page/2/
It isn't pleasant reading and surely they can't all be making it up?

trisher, you gave no proof that the woman’s experiences were true , anyone could have written it .

I gave you one woman's experiences as an example there are many others. But dismiss them. It's a real example of what a toxic place Britain is becoming for those seeking asylum, and for foreigners in general.

The asylum seekers at Yarls Wood are released if they cannot be deported safely, and a lot come from countries where it is not safe for them. To condem Yarls Wood for poor treatment is a travesty, compared with the treatment they will have had on the journey it is paradise.
Although Windrush and Yarls Wood are not linked the affect us the same, they do not become British citizens and are still liable to be deported in the future. Even the children of Windrush born here are not citizens unless they have applied formally, at the present time it costs several thousand pounds to prove your right to citizenship and is very time consuming. You have to provide 4 pieces of documentary evidence for each year you have been resident, at least 10 years, if you are black and working class that is a very tall order.
If you are not a citizen you have no right to benefits or NHS and cannot work legally, so being released from Yarls Wood is no easy option. EU migrants are OK, the vast majority of Asians have got passports so would have got the documentation but all others who have never had a passport are caught. This issue is nowhere near resolved, the present hostility to foreigners is massively greater than the home office is telling us.

The use of one woman’s accusations taken as truth just to play the racist card is shocking

Accusing fellow GNers ( rather a lot) of racism is a poor move on your part trisher I have seen no evidence of that at all.
It’s an awful thing that women have been abused, either physically or verbally, some of the custodians/ guards have
Been acting as guards everywhere are at times wont to do, being cruel because they can be.I hope it has been thoroughly looked into.

trisher you are naively believing every word of this ‘ one woman’s story’ in fact the vocabulary used sounds very much like a native British speaker to me.
Hunger strikes will not force the authorities to allow them to
Remain here, if that isn’t the right thing to do.
It sounds as if things are improving at Yarls Wood, and any
Reports of rape must be investigated, as I am guessing they have been.
No country in the world simply allows any asylum seekers or immigrants to come into their country unchecked, with the recent exception of Germany who accepted ( and invited) a great deal of them, but that was unprecedented.