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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 12:03:54

It has everything to do with marriage vows in Corbyn’s case, to speak out for women’s rights, equality for women yet couldn’t accept his wife’s choice of school for their son. She wouldn’t bow to his wishes so he dumped her.

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 11:56:30

Apologies ab I got my dates wrong about SC. But there is still the issue that trisher raises. SC couldn’t actually prevent her son going to Dulwich - neither could JC prevent his son going to the grammar school. It was part of the reason apparently that the marriage ended probably because it embodies a fundamental point of principle. What’s that got to do with marriage vows?

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 11:46:53

Hang on
Lady Shami sent her son to an exclusive school two years ago.
but I thought it was her ex-husband who decided (he was privately educated, she wasn't)
So you blame her for his decision and Corbyn for not letting his wife decide. Isn't that a bit conflicting?
Or isn't it simply that sometimes couples disagree, and sometimes one of them has to compromise, and sometimes those disagreements become so bad the couple have to part.
It must be incredibly difficult to decide on a child's education when you are in the public eye, have enough money to pay and want the best for your child.

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 11:44:27

Granddad, an apology please? I am not a member of the Tory party

Grandad1943 Sat 02-Jun-18 11:44:10

Moggy, Moggy, Moggy, oy,oy, oy. winewinewine

Grandad1943 Sat 02-Jun-18 11:42:12

Going back to Lazigirls posting @ 10:00 today, should TM be told to go by the Tory Grandees or should she decide to "throw in the towel" (and who could blame her for that) then there are limitations on who could replace her.

In the above, Outside of Jacob Rees-Mogg we have Bungling Boris Johnson or the Tories leading political backstabber Michael Gove or perhaps the Conservatives leading incompetent Liam Fox.

Among that lot JRM must be in with more than an excellent chance. After all if he can make persons like anniebach laugh, he has to be home and dry with the rest of their small membership, so

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 11:34:24

Lady Shami sent her son to an exclusive school two years ago.

It does not speak well of Corbyn that he put his marriage vows below a choice of schools , it shows he has no regard for a woman’s wishes. Maryeliza, you speak out strongly for a woman’s right to abort but defend a man dumping his wife because he cannot respect her right to choose a school for her son.

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 11:29:54

Perhaps because this thread is about JRM

nigglynellie Sat 02-Jun-18 11:24:31

No comment about George Sorros I notice!! Why am I not surprised!!

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 11:23:20

I'm not sure about the Conservatives not wanting JRM there is a real gap on the right now UKIP and Farage have gone. They may see JRM as a suitably flamboyant figure to follow in Farrage's footsteps (Hey great alliteration!). He does after all embrace many of the same policies. Watch out for photos of him drinking beer in pubs!

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 10:37:38

The point nn is that she was not involved in politics at that time - stop being so deliberately obtuse - she was not being hypocritical and as for JC - what should he have done? You are being ridiculous. Still it’s easy for your lot because they don’t have any principles to breach as it all about what’s best for them

nigglynellie Sat 02-Jun-18 10:32:42

Your husband wishes it, you comply, and manage to keep your socialist credentials!!! How convenient!! Together with being elevated to the H of L, which, we understand the present opposition profoundly disagree with almost takes your breath away!! Hypocrisy of the highest order I'd say , but I'm sure perfectly justified!!? JC, was even cleverer! It's the wife (now ex) what did it! Nothing to do with me guys!!! Pathetic, on both counts!!

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 10:23:35

Sorry nearly 20 years ago

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 10:22:36

Re abs point and children’s education. FWIW I do think that people who choose to go into public life and thereby espouse certain policies eg towards selective education should follow those policies in their private lives. Shami said her husband wanted their son to be educated privately and so she followed his wishes. JC didn’t want his son to be educated in a selective school and it was a major factor in their marriage breakdown and the wife did send the son to the grammar school. Tbf I think it’s difficult in situations like this when what might be best for your child conflicts with the policies your party stands for. I think it speaks well of JC that it was such a point of importance for him. Tbf to SC her decision was made nearly 30 years ago when she was not a political figure.

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 10:10:56

I agree Lazigirl,

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 10:09:58

Exactly Lazi that’s why I support him for leader . Moggy Moggy Moggy oy oy oy ????

Lazigirl Sat 02-Jun-18 10:08:12

I can see JRM being popular amongst Tory party members, but can't ever see a majority of MPs voting for him in the first place. It would be too much of a gift to the Labour Party if he was elected. smile

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 09:59:34

Tam Dyall was an Etonian, Lady Shami tried to get her son into Eaton

nigglynellie Sat 02-Jun-18 09:52:26

Wonder why George Sorros is prepared to put a very substantial amount of money into trying to scupper Brexit?!! Hardly Philanthropy!!!! Along with the other wealthy elite, self interest comes to mind!! Are they too, filthy and disgusting Grandad?!! If JRM is as you say he is, well, he's certainly not alone!!

crystaltipps Sat 02-Jun-18 05:40:37

It’s probably the same easily pleased people who wanted Boris Johnson for leader, whose ship has hopefully now sailed, who like JRM. They think he looks good on telly and talks the populist talk. The fact that he walks the old Etonian walk isn’t taken into account.

Grandad1943 Fri 01-Jun-18 23:04:23

What a shambles the Tory's are in.

Grandad1943 Fri 01-Jun-18 23:02:55

Well, with problems mounting for Theriesa May (NI Border issue, Customs Agreement, US Trade Agreement, islamaphobia in the Tory Party to name a few) it would seem that Jacob Rees-Mogg will soon be in a position to run for the Tory Party leadership.

Surly there could never have been such a boost for the Labour party than to see Jacob Rees-Mogg leading the Conservative party since Sir Alec Douglas-Home was chosen as leader by the Tory Grandees.

Anniebach Fri 01-Jun-18 21:59:53

It was funny, and Corbyn meeting Jerry Adams q

mostlyharmless Fri 01-Jun-18 21:39:46

Funny skit about JRM (and his nanny) on “Tracey Breaks the News” BBC1 right now!

Anniebach Fri 01-Jun-18 15:52:52

I agree with you on what makes a good MP , I will add and a good leader, Corbyn fails miserable