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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

nigglynellie Tue 29-May-18 12:56:03

Presumably you know JRM personally to make that rather sweeping statement maryeliza?

nigglynellie Tue 29-May-18 12:54:13

Self aggrandisment and of course, our old friend money!

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 12:50:47

Well there’s self interest and then there’s JRM and self interest.

MaizieD Tue 29-May-18 12:44:15

What self interest would that be, nellie?

nigglynellie Tue 29-May-18 12:38:20

Unless you know somebody very personally it's impossible to say exactly what they are like or what their motives are. As a general rule, I would say there aren't many politicians without a degree of self interest at the root of their political dealings!! After all, there is always the next election!!

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 12:32:05

Well let’s hope that’s never the choice ab . I rather think the issue is slightly more complex than that

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 12:30:45

JRM - how do his supporters feel about his Russian investments and the money he makes ( through his companies) with the abortion pill whilst he stands resolutely against abortion in any circumstances? He will also make a huge financial killing out of Brexit ( so no self interest there than)

Anniebach Tue 29-May-18 12:29:01

Given a choice between a politician like JRM who is always polite and John McDonald who stood on the stage of the O2 and called fellow MP’s f*****g losers’ , then JRM every time

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 12:27:49

CP was a grown up politician - which JRM can never be accused of. Roll on his leadership I say (JRM not CP)

MaizieD Tue 29-May-18 12:27:28

Maizie final nail in coffin, hastening demise, etc etc.

I thought that was it, maryeliza grin

varian Tue 29-May-18 12:01:52

To say that an honest comment on JRM from a very distinguished politician who has known him since childhood is "disregarding the brexit voters" is absurd.

The brexit voters (about 26% of the population) are not the only British people who should be considered. Those like Chris Patten who believe we should remain in the EU, are not "looking after himself" or disregarding anyone. They are rightly concerned for the future of us all.

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 11:55:04

Well you are wrong ab

Anniebach Tue 29-May-18 11:41:54

I don’t think he is eccentric

Nicenanny3 Tue 29-May-18 11:39:16

Patten would say that he's a Remainer looking after himself and disregarding the Brexit Voters.

varian Tue 29-May-18 11:04:12

As Chris Patten, who has known JRM since he was a minimogg, said "Jacob had some very eccentric views when he was eight, and he still seems to have the same eccentric views at forty-eight.

The last forty years seem to have taught him nothing.

lemongrove Tue 29-May-18 10:47:38

The apple never falls far from the tree Maw grin
JRM was himself a very serious little boy and much like his own Father.

MawBroon Tue 29-May-18 10:39:41

Spotted Mogg and mini-Mogg in today’s Times.
Too good to keep to myself.

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 10:26:16

Maizie final nail in coffin, hastening demise, etc etc. In truth however, I would place a substantial bet that if and when there is a leadership election he will not make it to final two as too many Tory MPs will be concerned about their own self preservation.

MaizieD Tue 29-May-18 09:49:35

I really really really want him to become leader.

I am intrigued, maryeliza. Why?

Alexa Tue 29-May-18 09:44:26

The British public allowed themselves to be sold Brexit. Maybe they can be sold JRM. Advertisers manipulate and the Tories establishment afford to pay for clever publicists.

I hope you are right, Lemongrove, that this will not happen.

paddyann Tue 29-May-18 09:35:26

you know that song ,Clowns to the left of us jokers to the right ....seems it wasn't just a song its a prophecy.I cant see any people in UK politics who have the capability of getting this almighty mess sorted..we'll get deeper in the mire year on year with this crowd of selfservatives and pretendy labourites.If you have a god start praying .

maryeliza54 Tue 29-May-18 07:39:28

I really really really want him to become leader.

Anniebach Mon 28-May-18 20:01:54

I have seen some clips, he has a wicked sense of humour ?

Jalima1108 Mon 28-May-18 19:56:39

Well, you seem very keen for that to happen Grandad!

Nicenanny3 Mon 28-May-18 19:55:42

Have a look at Mogg the Week YouTube Anniebach.