Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

Artists in Britain often have their work destroyed if it is considered offensive by some.

HONG KONG — A Hong Kong-based bookseller who was secretly detained in China has been taken away by Chinese authorities again after being released into house arrest last October, his daughter said Monday.
(23rd January 2018)
Gui Minhai, a Chinese-born Swedish national, ran a Hong Kong publishing company specializing in gossipy tales about high-level Chinese politics when he disappeared from his Thai holiday home about two years ago. He was believed to have been spirited away by Chinese security agents to mainland China, where he later turned up in police custody.
The case reinforced rising fears that Beijing was eroding rule of law in Hong Kong, a semiautonomous Chinese city that is promised civil liberties like freedom of speech until 2047. The books the group sold at their Causeway Bay Bookshop were popular with visitors from mainland China, where such titles were banned.

Artists in China are often imprisoned if their work upsets the government.

Yes, but it has state approval as with everything in China! Demonstrations are allowed, but again with state approval, same with religion or anything else you can think of which is hardly democracy as we know it !!

I am aware that China has moved forward regards private enterprise . And the rest ?

Anyne who still thinks private enterprise is illegal in China is worfully out of date anniebach

China's telecom manufacturer Huawei Technologies Co Ltd ranked top among the country's private enterprise with 521.57 billion yuan ($79 billion) in revenue in 2016, according to a list released on Aug 24.

Suning Holdings Group and Shandong Weiqiao Pioneering Group Co Ltd ranked second and third respectively.

The list, called China Top 500 Private Enterprises 2017, was released by the All-China Federation of Industry and Commerce.

www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017top10/2017-09/06/content_31618619.htm

We're truly doomed then paddyann - an old, backward-facing Leader of the LP, an old rebel, and a young throwback to the 1800s.
And as for the Lib Dems, they can't seem to find anyone apart from good old Vince age 75.

The Future Looks Bright

never say never Jalima1108 I remember being told Mrs May would NEVER be PM and lo and behold ...there she is !!

I choose to remain with the party whilst there are still many labour MP’s with whom I have trust.

I have never joined any political party although I am not saying that I never would in order to achieve an aim.

However, if a person has been a member of a political party for many years and that party moves with the times in order to get elected and bring about some reforms why should that person leave the party when it gets taken over by old-fashioned instead of forward-looking politicians controlled by a somewhat shadowy movement and, thus, as many would say, making themselves unelectable?

Would it not be better to work within that party with like-minded politicians, party members etc to try to bring about rational policies together with a leader who could make that party electable again.
Carrying on down the same, so far unelectable, route is not going to achieve the aim of replacing the Tory Government. Introducing de-selection will mean many good and popular MPs could be lost and Labour could spend even longer in the wilderness.

Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

Leadership without a GE means becoming PM - and sniggering posts about Jacob Rees-Mogg will achieve nothing because he will not become PM.

The five communist counties

China

Cuba

Laos

North Korea

Vietnam

State owned media

Private ownership illegal

Elections are single party affairs

Why is he singled out for criticism?
I think because, in the main, he singles out one particular poster and harangues that poster for her beliefs.

Alexa wrote
"I never understood what is supposed to wrong with communism. Stalinism was wrong, but communism?*
Me neither. We've had long arguments about this in the past.

Well I suppose if you are happy with NOT having freedom of speech, freedom of the expression, freedom of movement outside the prescribed areas, freedom of religion, freedom of lifestyle, in other words the freedoms we take for granted eroded, then communism is fine!!

Oh nobody is being singled out Maizied but if I am “talking” to someone am I really expected to add on “this may apply to other posters as well”?

But to repeat, there is a perfectly acceptable convention to avoid confusion regarding quoted comments and user names, so why ignore it?

I sort of understand that MaizieD. Wasn't 'politically correct' another one of those phrases that connote other than they denote. This is a problem in other discussion websites I join in. And of course an even huger problem with political publicity. I don't like forked tongues but it seems we have to deal with it. The way to deal with it is to know about the problem. Blaming individuals is not the way to deal with the problem, as individuals may be unaware that there is a problem.

I myself had to have the nasty undertones of the phrase 'political correctness' explained to me.

It's not the actual terms 'communist', 'Corbynista' etc. that are the problem. It's the fact that they are being used pejoratively, (whatever the person using them might disingenuously assert) . Context and 'tone' have to be considered.

Very true maizie.

MawBroon

I find it off that you have joined a forum but persist in ignoring the way things are done on GN.

Grandad isn't the only 'new poster' who persistently ignores 'the way things are done on Gnet'. Why is he singled out for criticism?

I never understood what is supposed to wrong with communism. Stalinism was wrong, but communism?

Oops, and not part of Momentum .

So trisher, you are not a communist, a militant, a Corbynite, a member of the Labour Party ? clear as mud.

Annie It is insulting to call anyone something they are not. You have often protested about being called a Tory. As for my grandfather-yes I am proud of him. He was a union man and a communist when being either could find you without work, he refused to comply with the standard of the time of bribing the foreman to get work. He had principles, so do I. This means we would never subscribe to something we had no intention of supporting or constantly denigrated. We would both do the honest thing and get out.

Yes mrsmopp.

Jacob isn't even in the Cabinet yet. Isn't he jumping the gun a bit??