Mary Wilson

Please! Can we just talk about the topic! Please?

Then
^Bl**dy h*ll, did I ever say you did MaryEliza?
Anyway, I got it wrong, it was Nehru! blushbut it was a strong rumour at the time and since.
*Don’t be so touchy.*^
Last line so personal and unnecessary

Aw Maw, sorry I have the giggles , my views on the QM do not include admiration ? I will remain silent and read the posts on this woman

Yes Annie!

Norma Major held their marriage together whilst JM had a much publicised affair with EC. And another one before that. She always appeared to be a very calm and supportive woman but must have been going through hell at the time.

Oh dear got it wrong it was 9.44 and the first agressive post
*Is it fair to hijack a thread about Mary Wilson?
(Oh let’s have another political bunfught shall we? )*

Hear, hear Anniebach
Would it be controversial if I mentioned the Queen Mum I wonder?

Try 9.48 and between 10.58 and 11.04 Mawbroon
9.48 no post.
9.44 I did ask about the derailing of the thread but I was not intending to sound aggressive, just felt Mary Wilson was being sidelined
10.58 was a (sincere) apology for getting Nehru/Gandhi wrong (will I ever live that down)
11.00 I was accused of sarcasm which was news to me because in no way was my comment sarcastic.

Let’s go back to women married to men in the public eye ?

Well said Maw. This is a damned good topic to discuss and if we could just stop with the aggressive and angry posts, the subject could be discussed properly. I just don't understand the need for such anger and vitriol that derail threads and put people off posting. What is the point? Please GNHQ, don't pull this thread. It isn't the thread that's the problem.

Try 9.48 and between 10.58 and 11.04 Mawbroon

So swingers Annie? Who knew?

Which post was antagonistic?
(Of mine I mean)

No trisher I was not being argumentative, just replying to a post about Corbyn, there are couples who are content with an open marriage , both have affairs but stay in the marriage, joint agreement to disregard wedding vows.

If you don't want controversy MawBroon then perhaps you shouldn't reply in an antagonistic manner to posters. As for my conclusion both Annieand niggly posted about open marriage and the inconsequence of affairs. But I agree they may not have meant me to reach the conclusion I did. I suspect that perhaps they were not posting their real views, just being argumentative.

Why are you threatening to pull a perfectly reasonable thread which (yet again) I started in good faith?
Just because one person decides to kick off does that mean the rest of us can’t e.g. honour the memory of a significant woman or ask for instances of other “powers behind the throne” as it were?
This is too like “whole class detentions” because of one troublemaker sitting at the back.
Be reasonable GNHQ .
Please.
(Otherwise anybody could, were they so minded, effectively censor the threads of those they do not like.)

The blood pressure thread might be worth a look...

Well I don't know what happened with this thread. Why has it turned into some sort of fight?

No it doesn’t Maw ?

So what seems to emerge from this thread is that it's OK to be as promiscuous as you like as long as you don't get found out and don't get divorced. Who knew that so many GNers were swingers?

Does it?

My intention was not only to share Mary Wilson’s (IMO admirable) life with others and by analogy to look at instances of “the woman behind the (better known) man.”

So what seems to emerge from this thread is that it's OK to be as promiscuous as you like as long as you don't get found out and don't get divorced. Who knew that so many GNers were swingers?
For Mary Wilson, who tried to be her own woman, wasn't a great poet but wrote from her heart

After the Bomb
After the Bomb had fallen,
After the last sad cry
When the Earth was a burnt-out cinder
Drifting across the sky,

Came Lucifer, Son of the Morning,
With his fallen-angel band,
Silent and swift as a vulture
On a mountain-top to stand.

And he looked, as he stood on the mountain
With his scarlet wings unfurled,
At the charnel-house of London
And the cities of the world.

And he laughed..........

And as that mocking laughter
Across the heavens ran,
He cried 'Look!' to the fallen angels -
'This is the work of Man
Who was made in the image of God!'

www.google.co.uk/search?q=voothby+and+the+krays&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB703GB703&oq=voothby+and+the+krays&aqs=chrome..69i57.25633j0j7&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=KdKPC95rHptnKM:

Not whispers niggly

Mary Wilson also had to put up with the rumours surrounding Harold and Marcia Falkender.

Sorry for gobbledegook on previous post. I'm on a mobile phone and the screen is miniscule.

If it's safe to post now . ..... I heard someone on Radio 4 yesterday morning say that MR was a very kind and gentle woman. When he was suffering with dementia, in later life, she accompanied him to formal dinners, made sure that he was immaculately turned out and guided him through social situations. Her deep love for him lasted to the end. She was deeply loved and admired by her family and friends for being kind and loyal. A good way for anyone to be remembered, whoever they are.