England, no way sorry

A conundrum !!

I think the problem is that the population is now so large and everyone needs water, a lot of it!! You only need a hot summer and it becomes a real problem. It is difficult of course depending which side of the fence you're on. Losing your home and livelihood is devastating, as it is for all who are in the way of new developments. Equally running out of water isn't much fun either, as we discovered last winter when our pump froze and we were dry for three days relying neighbours who are on the mains! I don't know what the answer is, and the Abingdon reservoir sounds hideous!! But people need water!!

Dick Emery lemon.

But is is a good idea to share our resources isn't it?

Is it because it was a suggestion by the GMB that you seem so angry about it?

Annie......’oooh, you are awful....but I like you’

( what was that comedian’s name? Dick something?)

If the GMB had said ‘with the agreement of Wales’ but no they jumped in both feet and big mouths , take the water from Wales . Yes an apology only because they were informed of the devastation at Capel Celyn and the anger this caused in Wales.

How awful to erect a Great Wall , .

Good idea, Manchester sending water down to London, are there canals ?

"Ilovecheese, surely you have valleys in the south, flood one"

But surely nobody is talking about flooding valleys this time are they? it was just a suggestion to use some water from Wales for the South. The suggestion has been apologised for and they said they didn't mean to upset anybody.

I don't live in the South, I live in Manchester but if we have plenty and the South doesn't have enough, then why not share our resources. Water is too precious not to be shared.

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I think the difference is that within the confines of a valley, a body of water does look lovely, but not building on flat land and creating a great wall (Winter is coming! To all you GOT fans.)

I used to live in Abingdon as a child. This reservoir has been under discussion for many years, it will eventually happen I guess, but people need water and you can't use the Thames!!! These things will inevitably upset some people wherever they go. Where we lived in Somerset a reservoir was put in in the 1970's which caused a lot of upset with the loss of a beautiful valley and people's homes and livelihoods! When we moved there in 1992, it had become a sailing/rowing/ canoeing venue, (no motors allowed!) a trekking centre and enjoyed fantastic wild life, so I suppose it all depends on your point of view. Personally I'd be willing to share water with anyone in the UK who needs it, and anything else come to that.

Personally, I am completely in love with our upland reservoirs. They can be places of solitude, tranquility and great beauty, but if I had my home and my community snatched out from beneath me in order to build one my view would be very different.

The proposed reservoir that Greyduster and Monica mentioned will mean ( since the land there is flat) there will be a massive wall around it.So it will impact on the look of the countryside, although am aware that most reservoirs look fine ( like Rutland Water) and can host watersports and nature trails.
I live not far from this proposed new site, so can say that it will mean the loss of a couple of farms and some houses.
I feel very sorry for them, and the nearby village where Monica lives.

Annie I don’t know but reading back upthread, it may be the same scheme MOnica was referring to. If it is, perhaps she can provide an answer. If what I have read is correct, it will cover an area bigger than Heathrow Airport, so it’s impact on the surrounding area will be considerable.

My grandad worked on the Haweswater reservoir , I think that supplied Manchester. When we have had a severe drought the remains of the village can be seen.
It is,of course, very sad to lose beautiful land but at least providing water isn’t a trivial cause.
Re. The efficiency of the water companies. My father, a water engineer worked in various countries around the world ensuring that those countries got the best water supply that could be achieved. He wasn’t very impressed with the wastage of water that goes on here by the water companies or by us!
Perhaps if we all behaved as though water was a precious commodity we wouldn’t need so many reservoirs.

Greyduster, I don’t know the area, will it mean flooding farms and peoples homes ? I hope not.

Dwr Cymru have spent millions improving our beaches .

If London has a demand for water then build a reservoir.

Supply and demand ? Liverpool demanded water and the people of Capel Celyn were thrown out of their homes and farms. If it was fair and the right thing to do why did Liverpool apologise forty years later?

It appears that Thames Water are struggling to manage the 180 litre per day per property leakage problem they have and so unless and until they can, presumably any water shipped from anywhere would be subject to substantial wastage once it gets to where they want it! They also seem bent on going ahead with building a huge reservoir (second only in size to Keilder, apparently) near Abingdon, and the impact that will have on the surrounding landscape doesn’t bear thinking about. No valleys to flood so in effect, it will be “contained” within some sort of structure.

I think it is relevant Annie there is no way these massive businesses ( run for profit) give “my” NE water or “your” Welsh water for free ! It’s a commodity it will be sold not given . It’s supply and demand.

Why not?

Nothing to do with this discussion gilly, a union has said a Welsh reservoir should supply London with water and I ask why?

Water is big business Annie Northumbria water who owns Keilder has just been “outed “ for paying out over £108 million in dividends to its shareholders this year . The CEO Heidi Mottram received over £1 million salary alone !

This is a national scandal when waters in the NE is plentiful and yet ordinary people like me struggle to pay their huge water bills .

What does it matter who benefits?

It wouldn't be there if the country didn't need it.

And who benefits from the biggest reservoir in England gilly?

I don’t understand what you mean Annie.

In the North East we have the biggest reservoir in the U.K. ( Keilder ). When it was built it meant the loss of numerous farms and a school too . But what was the alternative ?