Upskirting bill blocked

Hmm. She says a fair bit about parliamentary ways needing to be changed. I daresay she's right. What has she done or is she doing about it?

Likewise all the rest who object to the pernicketiness with details of the Chopes of the House—I'd like to hear what they are doing about it.

I clicked on that link expecting a well-written article. The very first sentence is rubbish!
"In a week of so much parliamentary nonsense, we rounded off with Sir Christopher Chope objecting to the law that would have stopped perverts taking pictures up women’s skirts."

HOW, exactly, does making something a crime stop it happening? Crimes are committed despite laws against them.

Secondly, why is everyone assuming that Chope wanted to block the law change completely? My understanding of it is that he wanted to stop it being pushed through in its current form. That is not the same thing as not wanting the law on upskirting to change AT ALL.

I will go and read the rest of the article but I'm truly shocked at the herd mentality that seems to be prevalent on this issue.

Thanks maryeliza54, I will one day learn the skill of posting links!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/16/wrecking-ball-christopher-chope-v-upskirting-bill-alas-no-contest
Here we are - too good not to share

Jess Phillips article on this issue in yesterday's Observer was good. She pulled no punches in her evicerating verbal assault on Sir Christopher Chope.

Yes that’s a possibility Iam I also wouldn’t be surprised if he does in fact retire at the next election ( whenever that will be). At least it does seem that the legislation will go through before the recess and you never know, somebody somewhere might start to look seriously at PMBs and their arcane rules.

The photo of the pants on his Westminster door is hilarious.

Yes it may be petty but his actions don’t deserve any better.

We can live in hope maryeliza. Even if he remains as the MP, just maybe he'll think on before he shouts "object" to something anyone else would be supporting.

With his majority, no chance at all of his losing

what matters is the ballot box
and long memories

But the members are and that’s all that matters

Not all of his constituents are happy with him though:

www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/16297341.Pants_protest_against_upskirting_row_MP_Sir_Christopher_Chope/

Local artist Lorna Rees, who has strung the 'bunting' says:
"I'm not a Conservative voter but I know a lot of people who are and they are just as furious as I am."

Absolutely no chance at all - why would they? He represents their views perfectly

The Tory majority there is weighed, not counted. I doubt his party will deselect him.

Which exactly why blocking the proposal was stupid, attention seeking and irresponsible sunseeker.
I was surprised when visiting Christchurch before the last election to over hear many conversations in support of the active UKIP branch there. The other very noticeable thing was How very white British other visitors and residents were. I suspect the Tory
MP is safe in his seat, sadly.

It will all depend exactly where you were sun when you were upskirted - if it were witnessed and the witnesses declared themselves outraged, then he could be charged with outraging public decency ?

Which shows the idiocy of this not being a crime - I can be charged for protecting myself from an invasion of privacy but the pervert could get away scot free

sunseeker At the moment I would think you would be charged, as you would have committed a crime, and he would not have committed a crime.

Discussed this over the weekend and a friend put forwards the question:

If I catch someone upskirting me and I give him a kick in the family jewels, would the police arrest and charge me and would the man be able to sue me for compensation.

Interesting question.

I suspect Christchurch constituency would elect anything as long as it wore a blue rosette! It is not known as a hot bed of left wing activity and radical ideas!

Pity we can't devise a way to ensure that anyone convicted of upskirting is sent to Christchurch...

Sadly, I'm not surprised his constituency association is still saying nothing. I feel sure he has its support, along with the support of the majority of residents.

NF is giving CC some stick - the latter is trying to make himself sound like the saviour of democracy - and failing. And now he’s saying that Gina Martin understands why he acted as he did- well actually what has that got to do with anything? He’s obviously spent all weekend trying to put a defence together - hummmm. Well at least he’s removed any lingering doubts I may have had re his intellect and morality ( oh all right then I didn’t have any lingering doubts)

His constituency association is still saying nothing I believe so clearly he has their support

I'm just wondering how many of these self important old dinosaurs we have left in Parliament nowadays? How on earth can they represent the common person? I hope the residents of Christchurch who voted him in are hanging their heads in shame.