That £20bn - jam tomorrow

Yes she said it would come from taxation. The criticisms are no to do with sour grapes-not sure how that is logical. ( btw Corblyme and the Shallow (sic) cabinet wouldn't get my vote) its to do with the fact that she was disingenuous in claiming this was a Brexit bonus, when anyone with a grasp of the figures would realise it wasn't. No objection to taxes being raised to pay for NHS, just don't want it used to give some sort of credence to the red bus lie.

lemongrove I totally agree with you. If we want a better NHS and better social care we all have to pay for it. We all use it to some extent and the money has to come from somewhere.

I don’t think that this is anything whatever to do with any other political party, but whether or not the Cons govt is providing enough and in good time rather than too little too late.
If this govt doesn’t want to be thought insincere why announce such a major new initiative on a Sunday with the small print to follow on about Tuesday?
We all want the NHS to be able to plan beyond the end of its nose but how can it plan even for 5 years on this kind of ‘funny money’?
While social care - wh includes most dementia care - can only plan on the likelihood of further reductions.

Mrs Hammond?

Who would want to be Philip Hammond?

T May has not ‘refused to say’ where the money will come from, did anyone watch the speech today? Hammond will be announcing exactly what will happen and the figures,
Taxation will have to go up.....good! It needs to, and the NHS needs more money, needs to cut waste and needs a plan for the future.
Am guessing a lot of comment is sour grapes because ‘the dreaded Conservatives’ have announced this and had it been Corbyn ( if he had been PM) there would be shrieks of congratulation all round.
I couldn't care less which political party spends more on the NHS as long as they do so!

"Sir" James Dyson was on tv last night talking about his yearly 2 million pounds in grants from the EU ..for his farm...That 's the same James Dyson BILLIONAIRE who took his workforce out of Britain because he didn't want to pay minimum wage!! Mr Dyson claims everybody gets the grants to make all farmers the same? Surely you have to apply for them?There are a lot of farmers I know who dont get them and who ARE in need of finacial help

Totally ignoring all the subsidies and grants we currently get from the EU that the Tories have promised to keep going after Brexit. The balance is nowhere near the amount May has promised the NHS.
And where are these taxes going to come from? It sounds like ordinary people, not a restoration of corporation tax, or a higher rate for the very rich.
They take Labour's policies, but not the funding plans.

I agree ginny!

There was no mention of social care either just how many over 85 year olds there will be but their greatest need will presumably be for good social care to keep them/us out of hospital!

Theresa May has refused to say which taxes will rise to pay for her £20bn a year NHS boost, amid a storm of criticism over her claim of a “Brexit dividend” to part fund it. Pressed on her admission that tax hikes will be needed, the prime minister gave no details, saying only that “we will be contributing more as a country”.

Meanwhile, independent experts and a senior Tory MP dismissed Ms May’s claim – echoing the much-derided Leave campaign – that the government would have extra cash from leaving the EU. By increasing NHS funds Theresa May will be looking to save herself.

“Don’t even begin to swallow any rubbish that this will be some Brexit bonanza,” tweeted Sarah Wollaston, the Tory chair of the Commons Health Committee. "In reality the tax rises & borrowing will need to be higher as a result.”

Paul Johnson, the head of the respected Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), said the government had accepted that Brexit would swipe £15bn a year from revenues – or £300m a week. Furthermore, the “divorce bill”, plus commitments to replace Brussels funding in key areas, would swallow up all of the returning EU contributions until 2022. “There is no Brexit dividend,” Mr Johnson said.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-funding-latest-20-billion-theresa-may-tax-rises-brexit-dividend-a8402951.html

I am concerned where this money will come from. Personally I think that NI should be a lifetime tax that we all pay (assuming we have enough income).

The government Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt was on sky News this morning trying to give some credence to what Therisa May had stated over the weekend in regard to NHS funding. After having some difficulty in answering questions on the amount of tax rise needed and the Brexit bonus, he then stated "I think these are questions that need to be answered by the Chancellor".

This is a government in complete disarray with almost everyone in cabinet deserting the Prime Minister on one issue or another in the last few days. Therefore, Boris Johnsons prediction of a "meltdown" in the government seems to be coming ever more likely and possibly in the next few weeks or even days.

It is the usual ploy to spend money to get the electorate on side but it is welcome at a time of strained resources. We, the electorate, need to keep whichever side is in on their toes re the NHS and its funding. The only times the NHS was properly funded was under the Blair and Brown administrations. Since then it has been cut and cut and cut. The only reason it has not collapsed completely is because of the Blair/Brown funding which is now running out and hasn't been replaced under the Coalition and Tory governments. Even at the start it wasn't properly funded because no-one realised just how poor the health of the working class actually was.

I think it's a good idea in principle and have, in fact, banged on about giving the NHS guaranteed income so it can plan ahead rather than lurching from year to year, every time the topic comes up. However, we need to know where the money will come from and that it is 'real' money.

And, the NHS should cut waste!

I heard the segment on the BBC yesterday when critics were debating the amount of money TM is promising us will be available for the NHS etc after Brexit.
They implied it is all pie in the sky.

No-one knows just how much ,or even if,we will have money to spare and the divorce from Europe bill may well be enormous.

TM is demeaning herself yet again, she may well not be in power anyway so can promise anything.