What next from Trump's America?

Thanks varian
However, we wait and see

But seeking asylum is not illegal. I think Trump and his cronies declared that illegal immigration was a criminal offence a couple or so weeks ago Deedaa - see my post above.

Being reported on Google that people are threatening to resign from Fox News as they are being told to defend Trump in this disgusting matter.

surely Mrs May should cancel his trip to UK, and the Queen refuse to meet him on those grounds. Otherwise it makes them, and us all, accessories to concentration camps for children.

These Trump supporters are devoid of compassion. How else could he ever have been elected?

But seeking asylum is not illegal. No reason at all to separate them from their children while they wait to be processed.

The comments from Trump supporters are depressing. Any suggestion of backing down is seen as betraying them.

I am glad to hear that Trump has backed down.

www.france24.com/en/20180620-trump-backs-republican-plans-end-family-separation-crisis-immigration-children

Thank you Melania.

But the very strong message is being heard across the world as one of America's inhumanity and cruelty; not strength.

Trump presumably wants to send a very strong message to others who may be considering entering the country illegally.

Countries such as the USA and those in Europe have struggled over the centuries to make their countries successful
Well, of course, although what the Native Americans think of this is another issue entirely.
And why is the USA successful? Because of all its immigrants.

Yes, I agree these would-be immigrants need to be processed through the immigration system - but they should be kept together as families and not criminalised.

quizqueen has a point. It's a pity that African countries and Central American countries can't put their houses in order (ie men stop pointless fighting). The people can't just decant North and hope they'll be accommodated.
Note that's the bigger picture.
Children should not be separated from their parents.

JaneD3
There are 3 special, secret camps for babies and very young children according to Radio 4. That is even more appalling.
That sounds very sinister - will they 'disappear' to be adopted by American families, like those Haitian children who were supposedly being helped by American Christian groups

OK they may be in the country illegally but why not keep them all together?
sunseeker I think the policy is that anyone who has entered the country illegally is a 'criminal' and is detained in prison - however, they cannot send the children to the prisons where their parents are incarcerated so they hold the children in cages instead - in effect they are also prisoners, even babies and toddlers.

As most Americans are descendants of immigrants and the only true Americans are the indigenous peoples this seems a very rigid and cruel way of dealing with those who would wish to enter the country.

May 28th 2018: Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new “zero tolerance” policy earlier this month (May) that included imposing criminal penalties meant to deter Central American families from trying to cross the border illegally.
If a mother or father is with a child when apprehended for the crime of illegal entry, the minor must be taken from the parent.

I do understand that proper immigration processes should be followed but surely holding families together in an immigration centre is not beyond the capabilities of a country as supposedly 'civilised' and rich as the USA?

quizqueen is absolutely right.

Although I do not agree with young children being separated from their parents, these people are illegal immigrants and there should be a very quick turn around to see them deported. They have probably heard through the grapevine that their families will be separated on entry to the States but they are still willing to put their children through that experience so the blame is not entirely with the border police.

If you or I want to move abroad, we do not make ourselves a criminal by crossing a border illegally and expect the other country's taxpayers to pay to house and feed us. No country should allow people to think they can do this otherwise it would encourage millions more to do the same. I would hope that we would apply by the normal channels to see if the country we are interested in emigrating to will accept us because they need our skills. Countries such as the USA and those in Europe have struggled over the centuries to make their countries successful and I do not think it is right that citizens of other countries should just think that they are entitled to a piece of it when they ( and their governments) have made little effort to make their own countries a safe and prosperous place to live. The whole of South and Central America cannot move to the USA and likewise the whole of Africa and the Middle East cannot move to Europe.

I must admit that although I don't like the man as a person, I have been prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as I agree with him on some points he has made.

This time however, he has gone too far. I suspect this situation will quickly be resolved.

Like Jane10 we have spoken to Americans on cruises, and a lot of them have said that the US does have a huge problem with Mexicans, a lot of whom are drug dealers, entering the States illegally.
There is a lot of support for him in trying to stop this illegal immigration, but separating small children from their parents, of course is totally unacceptable.

I agree Jane10. Prior to the US elections there was lots of support for Trump from the Ameriion the cruise ships. In fact we only ever met one couple who had anything good to say about Obama. We were actually on a cruise around the US during the election and I can't say I was surprised by the result. For those that know the demographics of the US, it's only the North Eastern coastal areas and Western states that are liberal. The whole swathe in the middle and southern states are deeply conservative, suspicious of outsiders and narrow minded. That's how Trump got elected. Like it or not that's America. Deeply troubling from the gun culture to the treatment of refugees and migrants. Heart breaking to hear the little ones crying. But there's a lot there that agree with him However hard it is for us to understand.

The Christians in the USA appear to be divided on the subject varian, as the video link url below shows. CNN news today interviewed people of all ages, and across many parts of America, to ask them for their views. It's staggering to hear their outage and anger, not that the children are being incarcerated, but that their parents have "broken into America and put their children at risk and are now making America look bad". It makes depressing viewing.

www.today.com/video/christians-divided-over-trump-s-immigration-policy-1259893827822

Where are the Trump supporting evangelical Christians in all of this?

Trump does this all the time. It’s his modus operandi. He goes in hard to demonstrate what he ‘could’ do then pulls back. Sends a message to the Mexican government & families thinking of crossing the border illegally - a very important word here.

One reason the UK Government will say nowt is that after Brexit, they'll need the US like never before..... It's one of the reasons some people voted Remain.

Strikes me Trump will do what he wants and ignore the out cries our governments cry shame on you but do you see them doing anything NOT! ! Stupid as it sounds keep the yanks from our borders how long before they change their tune?

Maybe cancelling his visit would be an insult, but lets face it he insults people on a daily basis, so why should we care. Ban him from entering our Country, let him know what it feels like. I am so angry at his appalling behaviour.

Just on the news - Trump about to stop the practice.

Two (or two thousand) wrongs do not make a right. It simply doesn't stand that wrongs in the past are a reason to keep schtuum now - all the more reason to protest against this vile man and his vile policies with the benefit of hindsight. Leader of the free world?? I don't think so.