If there was another EU referendum...

Yes, so I would be thinking again Luckyirl

And I do not mean the incompetents just on the UK side

If there were another referendum we would at least be able to vote in full awareness of the incompetents who would be "negotiating" the process.

Jura2
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But you just did.

will not respond petra- it is just too low (and you of course know it).

jura2
I don't need to use this story to score points against you, that's easily done 24/7.
MawBroon summed it up perfectly.
lets not cheapen our language by recourse to hyperbole

Even so, I cannot begin to understand how someone could use what happened to that little boy to score cheap points. THAT is sick and twisted. End of.

No, I’m with Petra. Neither sick nor twisted
The post-Brexit scenario may be retrogressive, challenging, even bruising for some, but “tragic beyond belief” it is not.
In the overall scheme of things, lives lost in Syria, tourists drowned in the duckboat accident, that wee boy - that’s tragic.
Let’s not cheapen our language by recourse to hyperbole.

tragic- and very sick and twisted, is using the poor child to score points about Brexit. Truly. Cannot believe anyone would stoop THAT low.

jura2
Tragic is what happened to a 3yr old's face that was sprayed with acid
Us leaving the eu * isn't tragic*
Get your priorities right.

The poorest will suffer most- the skilled middle-class will leave- and the financiers like Rees-Mogg and Mr May- will make a killing on the run on the pound.

Bravo. Stock piling spam may well be the least to worry about. The worst will be a EU in turmoil, more divided than ever- in very difficult circumstances - very angry with the UK, and all that could come with it in this very very unstable world. Hold on to your knicker elastics I'd say.

James is spot on:

www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/10156355251301558/?hc_ref=ARRCCnQ0oC66NS3vc5kH61L7NMK0p4MjfkiuDjNMPC2p3vsAF1XNDuBnpBGgm374DSA&fref=gs&dti=164264540717524&hc_location=group

it is clear now that this is what Rees-Mogg and co wanted all along - and now Jeremy Hunt is saying we are walking into No Deal by accident

50 years- 3 generations - if ever. And most Leavers will never see it either, whatever this land of unicorns maybe.

Tragic beyond belief.

Polliadh, let’s get your topic back on track, were we on here of any help to you I wonder ? I doubt it as, we tend to get side tracked!
I believe that the vote to leave has done a huge disservice to your generation . I am in favour of a 2nd vote after real facts are available, at the present moment we still don’t have any & perhaps we never will , it seems problems with trading etc etc are going to take years to unravel . History will be the judge as to wither it was right for us to leave the EU. I sincerely hope that this is so especially for you & those who will follow.

That is what I think was intended here Lemon.

I think the phrase ‘the great British public’ is sometimes used affectionately and sometimes used sarcastically, usually the latter when people don’t like the result of a referendum or a GE. It implies the user of the words is above the general mass and thinks in a superior way.

Bridget. "Allygran1 you can only interpret my view through your own window of thought process."

My response to you Bridgeit, is that the interpretation of your view is from your words, not my mindset, which is the word you might have been looking for instead of "window of thought process".

When you say: "I am not ridiculing any one or any side". Then you are deluding yourself. Words convey messages Bridgeit yours "the great British public (or not)" That is what you said.
As for your personal, unnecessary, words aimed at me, clearly designed to detract from the question you were asked. You say:
"I remember asking you before if you were a fairly young person, I beleive you must be,or fairly narrow in your understanding of others, hence your one dimensional approach to anyone you don’t understand or agree with."
My view is that apart from being extraordinarily untrue and silly, those words are both one dimensional and childlike.

You are a good side stepper Bridgeit, however, it only serves to highlight when you do post this sort of defensive response that rather than just answer the question you were asked you defend when it is not necessary. I have better things to do with my time, than play immature games.

Your original words Bridgeit:
"Bridgeit Sun 22-Jul-18 13:53:34
I dare-say Jura, that Gn is even more of an education about the Great (or not) British public than was ever anticipated & a bit of an eye opener !"

Now if we stick to the issue rather than attacking me Bridgeit, your latest post is saying with regard to the question I asked you:
"The great British public to many of us of a certain age is an endearing description to convey a common denominator which many , but not all will take as the majority who have a standard ( just to qualify this could be good or bad, or positive or negatives) or thought pattern that binds them together some may wish to call patriotism , something that is understood without having to explain, or qualify or even quantify,it will be something that is just understood a bit like all being ABBA fans or football supporters etc."
Well, yes it does and no doesn't is the response to your self contradictory words. The great British public to many of us is an endearing description absolutely, not though as you confusingly describe in your post and shown above. It is much more simple and clear than that as far as my age group is concerned it conveys an overarching sense of what is right and wrong, a basic common sense, togetherness in adversity and the dignity of a people who belong to a set of respected values recognised across the world. When you bring that into question in the context in which it was used and then by qualifying your words " the Great (or not) British public than was ever anticipated & a bit of an eye opener !", you call into question those commonly held views and values even if it is only for us on GN. Which is clearly what you intended. I would have thought more of you had you just said that, than the evasion.

Now it is important to keep this in perspective, you were only being trite, and a bit "clever" and sloppy in your use of the well respected and acknowledge term, "the great British public" in the context of the section of the great British public who use GN. Not the entire Nation, again this qualifies it even further and contextualises and clarifies your intended meaning when you added 'or not'.

So Bridgeit, back to the question, does this mean that you are in the "great British public group or the (or not) group on GN? And did you mean that the leave group are the "great British public" or the "or not" group? on GN? That was the question. Simple question.

Oh, come off it, Petra, Jeremy Hunt is Foreign Secretary. He'd have never have been appointed if he wasn't prepared to push the government's upbeat line on Brexit. He's hardly going to be travelling round Europe telling them all how grim it's going to be.

'Business' is saying just the opposite, apart from a few anti-EU mavericks, and we had arch-Brexiteer, Rees-Mogg, saying at the weekend that it will take 50 years to recover (tell me, why is he transferring his business to Dublin?)

You are clutching at straws.

Someone has replaced Jeramy Hunt with stunt double.
He's just said on the news that it looks very likely that we will leave the eu without a deal.
He more or less said " not only will we find a way to survive, but we will prosper"
I think I see what's going on here. A lot of people are waking up to the idea that we are going to do very well. They're starting to jump off the remainder ship. Listen out everyone, there's going to be more.
Just watch what they say later next year: it will all be "oh I knew it was all going to be ok, didn't I say so"

PS I have no cause to be alarmed about immigrants and I see immigrant workers mainly as pretty good workers at all levels.

I for one am the sort of voter that Greta and Bridgeit describe. I have little knowledge about politics and economics so I voted because of who I am. That's to say I am a European and a Scot who sees Britain as a small post industrial island attached to the mainland and the continent.

I am also a little spooked by the threat of take-over by Trumpland , importing its nasty cheap meat and poultry.

Greta, I agree with what you have said, & there in (Imo) lies the problem. We should never have voted without knowing substantially more facts. It was a vote taken on emotion, suppositions, and with a split interpretation of just about every element to it. No wonder it feels & is chaotic.

The accounts have been signed off for years.

Oh, sorry - have the accounts been signed off now? I understood there was rather a lot of confusion as to where all the money goes. My mistake.

What do you mean about balancing the books?

Doesn’t that work both ways Greta? Many who voted remain based on their decision on faith. Faith that the bureaucrats in Brussels say they know what they’re doing so they must be right. No need to balance the books. The belief that we’re surviving as we are and that’s enough.