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Likely consequenses of brexit

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varian Tue 03-Jul-18 20:40:02

If brexit happens, as I fear it probably will, the consequences, both intended and unintended, are likely to damage this country to an unprecedented extent.

As it is the most important political issue of our times, I believe we should continue to discuss it on GN, but we must be prepared for a continuence of the blind unreasoning dogma we have had so far from the little band of brexitextreemists on GN who will just keep their fingers in their ears.

Even so, I think it is important to continue to seek out the truth. We owe it to our children and grandchildren.

jura2 Wed 04-Jul-18 09:04:09

..perhaps it is not, NOT funny at all?

And I do have a wicked SOH.

lemongrove Wed 04-Jul-18 08:57:59

Sense of humour bypass for some I see ( as per usual) ?

MaizieD Wed 04-Jul-18 08:52:03

Yes, I will have so many choices of lemon groves now, it won’t be restricted to Europe. ?

Oh, did the vile and monstrous EU prevent you from holidaying anywhere other than in EU member states, lemon?hmm

Luckygirl Wed 04-Jul-18 08:49:40

"Blind unreasoning dogma" - that is part of the problem - each side is not listening to the other.

Ask a man whose family rely on the fishing trade if his vote to leave is "unreasoning dogma" - his vote will be because the EU has taken away his livelihood.

Not all leave voters are Farage clones.

Even reasonable remain voters recognise that the EU was a mixed blessing for many people. And I guess that the government's inability to mitigate these ill effects would have been in the mind of many voters.

jura2 Wed 04-Jul-18 08:44:42

Just told OH, bet some Brexiters will now go on saying ‘we won against Columbia, we can now do anything’ ...
soooo predictable and totally irrelevant of course.

suzied Wed 04-Jul-18 05:16:09

Brexit will make people outside London worse off, two reports have found.
Household bills will rise by between £245 and £1,961 a year after Brexit, with a disproportionately adverse impact on lower-income groups and people in Northern Ireland, Wales, the Midlands and the north-east
The Institute for Public Policy Research found that a hard Brexit might reduce inequality between low- and high-income groups, by hitting higher earners in the pocket most.
“Even if we had free-trade deals with every single country outside the EU and went to no tariffs, there is no way things will be cheaper. It is still a negative situation for everybody,” said Duncan Brewer, partner at Oliver Wyman and head of its retail and consumer team.

Allygran1 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:47:07

That's true, what a game!

Jalima1108 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:35:59

I hope you've told any snakes to keep away - and spiders

I agree about the stunning views, lucky you.

lemongrove Tue 03-Jul-18 22:29:23

Yes Jalima that’s my place, wonderful views just watch out for the wildlife, eek.??

lemongrove Tue 03-Jul-18 22:27:19

Why not Ally smile We beat Colombia tonight, we can do anything!

Allygran1 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:24:21

Can we do another 1000 lemongrove? smile

Jalima1108 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:24:20

This looks very nice for my hols - is this your place lemon?
www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/20698636

I've been to Montville and very pleasant it is too, but I wouldn't mind visiting again

lemongrove Tue 03-Jul-18 22:21:08

Yes, I will have so many choices of lemon groves now, it won’t be restricted to Europe. ?

Jalima1108 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:18:52

with an 'o'

Jalima1108 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:18:31

oh - and Columbia, mustn't forget them!

Jalima1108 Tue 03-Jul-18 22:17:35

I echo what Anniebach has said

Dare I say - 'I like your post, Anniebach' - is that allowed?

There are lemon groves aplenty in South Africa, Turkey, Lebanon, South Africa and Australia .....
Just saying smile

merlotgran Tue 03-Jul-18 22:13:25

I'm guilty as well, lemon grin

lemongrove Tue 03-Jul-18 22:10:37

Yes Jura it is very lovely indeed.....and chosen for my favourite place in Italy, Sorrento.
I love Italy, Spain and Portugal, just don’t love the EU.

Smileless2012 Tue 03-Jul-18 21:33:20

Yes it does work both ways Bridgeit but it was a remainer who started this thread by insulting leavers so hardly a good start is it.

jura2 Tue 03-Jul-18 21:24:17

lemongrove is such a lovely name. It sounds soooo
European ?

Anniebach Tue 03-Jul-18 21:22:55

Why ask for it to be discussed then state leavers are guilty of blind unreasoning dogma ?

And I ask this as a remain voter

PamelaJ1 Tue 03-Jul-18 21:07:23

There is only a ‘little’ band of us because we are frightened of you.
Now I’m bowing out.

Luckygirl Tue 03-Jul-18 20:52:23

There is a great deal of unwillingness to listen on both sides, and always was. It helps no-one.

Bridgeit Tue 03-Jul-18 20:48:55

Smileless,surely that works both ways .

Bridgeit Tue 03-Jul-18 20:47:10

I agree Varian., there will be repercussions for many years to come & then when the country has eventually recovered the Brexiteers will proudly pronounce they right all along!