Likely consequenses of brexit

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varian
There is surely something quite perverse about politicians who chose to disregard dire warnings from every section of society, and knowing how much harm could be done still persist in this brext-at-any-cost lunacy

Maybe they are aware of things that others are not party to.

Leading disability activists have backed The Independent’s call for a referendum on the final Brexit deal, as the number of people signing the Final Say petition surged past 600,000.

With the prospect of a no-deal Brexit looming, groups representing disabled people have joined a variety of politicians and organisations in supporting the case for a public decision on the final deal. In an open letter to The Independent, disability campaigners, including former Olympic star Tanni Grey-Thompson and a string of leading academics, warn that the “chaotic, uncertain and discordant” atmosphere surrounding the Brexit negotiations could be “psychologically damaging” for disabled people.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/final-say-brexit-disability-disabled-nodeal-independent-a8486021.html

There is surely something quite perverse about politicians who chose to disregard dire warnings from every section of society, and knowing how much harm could be done still persist in this brext-at-any-cost lunacy.

Yes, Jeremy Hunt very much did change his interpretation of that statement in twenty four hours, and I am wondering what could have brought that about. Could it be that he did not want to begin yet another row in the Tory party on top of what is already going on over Islamaphobia, a leadership challenge, whether we should have a no deal walk away Brexit, or continue on with the shambles of trying to put together a coherent agreement to the EU negotiators that will never be approved by the Tories in the country or many in parliament.

Before anyone states that there are similar rows in the Labour party, I would agree there are. However, the Tory Party are supposed to be the party of "strong and stable government" and therefore rows in that party affect all of us, while rows in the Labour party do not.

Of course, there are those on this forum who would have us believe that all is sweetness and light in the Conservative party.

Just don't read long posts!
Simples as an irritating little meerkat would say

Long posts are not making any difference to the number of posts on a thread - it is still limited to 1,000, they are not taking up space in your cyber attic or hard drive - just skip if they're tltr.
I do prefer links (if you're reading durhamjen, yes, honestly!) but why try to control how some Gransnetters post by targeting them and complaining to GNHQ - unless, of course, they do not appear to be genuine posters and are trying to sell us something.

MaizieD
He didn't have to say anything. Politicians are experts in waffle when they don't want to answer a question.
But he wasn't asked a question, he volunteered that opinion.

Probably been told to toe the party line (by May? or Mogg?) hence the sudden backtracking.

On Twitter:
Our Foreign Secretary has 'clarified his remarks'. when he said "Brexit would be a mistake we would regret for generations" he meant "UK would survive and prosper"

Is anyone* buying this? Which time was he LYING. Because they can't both be true. #incompetent @Jeremy_Hunt

Well Jeremy Hunt has also said today in the Independent that Crashing out of the EU without a deal would be a “mistake we would regret for generations”.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-no-deal-jeremy-hunt-mistake-negotiations-eu-a8495406.html

He's Foreign Sec. Petra; in the cabinet. He's hardly going to say it's going to be a complete disaster, is he?

I'd rather hear this from someone who was rather more disinterested.

I'm sure many of us heard on the news today ( several times) that Jeramy Hunt stated that * the uk will prosper outside europe*

Not at all- I have targeted those who do long 'cut and paste' - irrespective of whether I agree with them or not. Cut and paste do not have a personal style - that is the very issue.

So you admit to picking on the posting style of those you disagree with?
I thought we eschewed ad hominem attacks and played the ball, not the player.

Exact, MB - targeted re those who constantly post very long 'cut and paste' - strangely enough ;) lol

Fair comment POGS
I seem to remember DurhamJen came in for a bit of criticism for posting many, many links.
Some posters cannot win and if long “cut and pastes” bothers anybody, they are under no obligation to read all the way through.
It seems to me the objection and criticism in this case have been somewhat targeted.

Crashing out of the EU without a deal would be a “mistake we would regret for generations”, Jeremy Hunt has said. The foreign secretary said a no-deal Brexit would “inevitably change British attitudes towards Europe”, just a day after Latvia’s foreign minister claimed the scenario stood a 50:50 chance of coming to pass.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-no-deal-jeremy-hunt-mistake-negotiations-eu-a8495406.html

Agreed, which is exactly why I have asked for a firm decision from GN - they should be allowed or not- and made it very clear 'from either side or anywhere in between' - no hypocrisy there.

Just don't read long posts!

The sillyness of castigating those posters you don't happen to agree with but praising those you do for doing the same is simple hypocrisy .

Post as you want, ignore what you want.

It would be helpful for GN to make a decision on copy/cut/paste. GN should make a clear decision about whether they are allowed, and put a maximum length.

Personally I think it is much better to post a link- with perhaps the most saillant point/s 'cut and pasted' up to a maximum word length. The recent pages and pages are totally unacceptable imho, from either side or anywhere in between.

I’m not sure now in light if the above comment whether I can cut and paste of simply link.

Oh well

This is a report about the preparation being thought through in London
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/17/sadiq-khan-london-resilience-forum-must-prepare-no-deal-brexit-food-medicine-shortages

When faced with such rude people - who constantly cut and paste pages and pages - best not to get involved with comments. Facts speak for themselves.

Oh dear, lazy posting not allowed on these threads Ali g?

Whatever next!

Not commenting is not lazy - it is survival and comon sense when faced with pages of 'cut and paste'.

Here is a brilliant quote from last weeks article by Gavin Esler, in the New European. I was not lazy, I typed it myself ;)
And I won't comment, because it says it all so well so aptly:

What is the purpose of truth and facts and news in a world of disinformation, where lying at the top has become normalised? The slippery concept of 'balance' needs to be rethought. Serious politicians and real experts cannot be 'balanced' by obscure talking heads whose main qualification is a university degree in blarney...... In the post Trump, post Brexit world .....confronting expert opinion and elected representativeson tv with articulate know-nothing non-experts of dubious provenance financed by who-knows what, is not 'balance'. It is a disservice to our people, our country, and the facts, accuracy and fairness.'

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Information about post Brexit consequences

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/why-trading-on-wto-rules-would-be-a-disaster/