Gransnet forums

News & politics

Sir Christopher Meyer

(65 Posts)
Greyduster Thu 12-Jul-18 09:19:44

I have just read that Sir Christopher Meyer, has been brutally beaten up at a London station this morning and hospitalised. A man and a woman have been arrested. It can be no coincidence that he is a former British Ambassador to the US and the US President is about to visit us. Sir Christopher has always been a consummate diplomat and a voice of reason, and if this has been carried out as some sort of perverted protest, I am appalled and ashamed of the kind of country we are becoming.

PECS Thu 19-Jul-18 22:15:21

Meant to add that my 26 yr old nephew slipped at the top of station steps in London and was badly hurt. Lost teeth, broke his nose and damaged his elbow as well as general cuts and bruises. Metal and concrete are very unforgiving.

PECS Thu 19-Jul-18 22:11:41

Whatever happened he sustained some nasty injuries poor chap! If he was knocked out he may have no recall of the moments immediately before himself so will not know what happened. The teens are hardly likely to admit to causing his fall even if they did. There may have been an altercation and he may have turned away angry/distracted and tripped. Or they may have shoved past him and caused his fall. Whatever happened I do not think it was Trump related!

MawBroon Thu 19-Jul-18 21:25:36

Ah but did he fall or was he pushed?
Not quite just a simple stumble or trip as this quote from an earlier post says
There's also been a report in the Times from an eyewitness who claims the gentleman may have been shoved by the two schoolchildren following a verbal altercation of some kind and fallen onto the platform landing on his face

PECS Thu 19-Jul-18 20:16:45

I see that it appears that this man sustained his injuries as a result of a fall.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenagers-did-not-attack-former-diplomat-sir-christopher-meyer-he-fell-says-witness-q7fvlbwfw

MawBroon Thu 19-Jul-18 20:12:55

To be fair, OP never used the phrase “ beaten to a pulp” nor did she quote any “ fake news”

Ihave just read that Sir Christopher Meyer, has been brutally beaten up at a London station this morning and hospitalised

Jalima1108 Thu 19-Jul-18 20:05:29

Some people are advocating that children the age of these school children should be given the vote ...

Salix Thu 19-Jul-18 12:34:47

No-one said it's OK eazybee, but one can say it's not OK without trying to put a political slant on it or using misleading words like "beaten to a pulp" as the fake media did.

Greyduster Thu 19-Jul-18 12:29:12

😏 Hmm.......

Jane10 Thu 19-Jul-18 12:19:36

So true MawBroon

MawBroon Thu 19-Jul-18 12:14:31

Isn’t it funny how teenagers , who are after all young adults and many of them considerably bigger and stronger than some of us, are referred to as “school children” when it suits?

MawBroon Thu 19-Jul-18 12:13:07

Well said eazybee. Goodness he could still have broken a hip, arm, leg etc, or been fatally injured, fallen on the track or anything.
Clearly not entirely accidental. When Paw was still well enough to struggle to London, using two sticks, I used to go through agonies trying to walk behind as well as beside him to make sure he was not jostled - even accidentally.

eazybee Thu 19-Jul-18 11:55:45

A man in his seventies has an altercation with two schoolchildren, they shove him so that he falls on his face and injures himself; lot of blood due to blood-thinning medication and only minor injuries.

So that's all right then?
If he had done it to them it would be regarded as child abuse.

Salix Thu 19-Jul-18 11:33:40

There have been some fake news websites attempting to make political capital out of Sir Christopher's injuries but there's categorically no evidence yet of any political motivation www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/17/blog-posting/no-evidence-political-motives-ambassador-attack/
There's also been a report in the Times from an eyewitness who claims the gentleman may have been shoved by the two schoolchildren following a verbal altercation of some kind and fallen onto the platform landing on his face. His injuries, though obviously regrettable, were minor and his wife has confirmed he was on blood thinning medication which explains all the blood in the photo. The OP says "it can be no coincidence". Actually it can, and almost certainly is. Anyway, best wishes for a speedy recovery Sir C.

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 20:05:09

He has quite a high profile in the media but it is unlikely that he was targeted deliberately.

Oldwoman70 Thu 12-Jul-18 20:03:09

If the protesters were planning a violent assault on someone why would they choose a retired former English diplomat?

As for the possible reasons put forward for the attack

He is English so wouldn't have spoken with an American accent, he was also travelling alone so it was unlikely he could have been overheard talking about his time in Washington.

eazybee Thu 12-Jul-18 19:54:32

I heard Sir Christopher Meyer talking recently on the radio about Trump's forthcoming visit to the UK, so it is possible he may have been identified by that.
Shameful attack, whoever perpetrated it.

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 19:42:28

I didn't know that the Stop Trump Coalition was only open to Labour members

I really would have thought that a lot of women would want to join it.

Anniebach Thu 12-Jul-18 19:40:54

Perhaps the far left know things others don’t , never have trusted them, they are so aggressive

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 19:36:51

Therefore even if these criminals are members of the Labour movement they are not in any way representative of any policy or condoned action of that movement.
It's a bit like the kind of headlines that shout:
P*****e C*****s Denies Taking Drugs

Of course, he probably didn't but you immediately think that perhaps he did!

So the perpetrators could be members of the Labour Party then, is that what you are trying to imply, Grandad?

That is very unfair of you.

Anniebach Thu 12-Jul-18 19:34:18

What on earth has the Labour Party and unions have to do with the attack on this poor man?

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 19:34:12

But white, middle class ...hmm
and an advisor to a Tory Prime Minister - unforgiveable sin!

lemongrove Thu 12-Jul-18 19:21:17

maryeliza and Grandad43 have now teamed up grin
On this thread, and others.
Can the forum cope with that?🤣

It doesn’t matter to them that Greyduster wasn’t blaming Corbyn or the unions.
GN gets crazier by the day.

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 18:13:45

Still looking for something to discredit the protesters - pathetic
I have not said one word about protesters confused

It was probably a random and very nasty attack but there is always a possibility that this was not a coincidence.

MawBroon Thu 12-Jul-18 18:03:32

Ah, thanks.

Jalima1108 Thu 12-Jul-18 17:59:47

SK is Sadiq Khan - I think that he (or his department) sanctioned the flying of the Trump in a nappy balloon - because it is not against planning rules.