so, when will you be starting stockpiling I wonder?

Mumsnet finds this useful on occasion

To try to get back on course Jura you might be interested in this article with some useful comments on panic buying/hoarding and understand my abhorrence of “talking up” a situation, also known as “Chinese whispers”
Such as this
people who rush out to buy and hoard items and deprive their neighbours are clearly greedy, selfish, stupid, lazy morons. Whatever happened to Britain's much vaunted Dunkirk spirit

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/933685.stm

LynnieG

Lynnie

Ooooh, a masterful man , no thanks, the days of ‘the little woman ‘ are long gone, some sadly are ignorant of this fact.

Can one be hysterically negative without being mentally ill? I suppose I should ask is hysteria an illness? Might head wikiwards. Not something I've ever thought about before, thus my ignorance.

It seems mass hysteria is not an illness: "In sociology and psychology, mass hysteria (also known as collective hysteria, group hysteria, or collective obsessional behavior) is a phenomenon that transmits collective illusions of threats, whether real or imaginary, through a population in society as a result of rumors and fear (memory acknowledgement)."

So the group hysteria referred to on this thread isn't about anyone's mental health.

Of course not Baggs!
But I think the social media- spread panicking and talking up stockpiling in anticipation of a worst case scenario are a manifestation of what the speaker on WH referred to as “hysterical negativity” ,

I deliberately don't post on what I consider may be contentious threads but do enjoy reading them and marvelling at the astonishing things people consider are going to happen or that they consider will be the outcome of some scenario or other. I have thoroughly enjoyed the beginning of this thread but it has sadly deteriorated.
There is a saying which some attribute to Socrates: "When the argument is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser"

Here's some calming words from an 'expert'
From channel 4 news last night.
Of course this only apples to people living in the ??
Andrew Lillico executive director of Europe Economics said that a no deal Brexit is still an option for the uk when leaving the European Union, but * dismissed claims that no deal would be total chaos*
If we end up with absolutely no deal at all then of course you would probably expect * some very brief period* of some sort of disruption.

Hysterical negativity sounds like a v.g. way to describe that, maw. I was intrigued by the mental health reference (don't know who made it). It didn't make sense to me whereas hysterical negativity did. I've seen what I'd call such before on GN.

Petra That sounds just like hiccups.

'some very brief period Petra' - you should listen more closely to our Brexiter in Chief. Rees-Mogg said today it would take a 'very long time' to know if the decision was right- and went on to say '50 years' ...

how old will you be in 50 years? I would be 117, OH 123-our kids will be in their 90s and our GCs in their 60s.

Believe Jacob Rees- Mogg if you want to Jura, I take him with a very large pinch of (Maldon sea) salt.
We all know, or at least I assume we do, that he has his own agenda and I personally would trust him as far as Boris Johnson in a blindfold in a pea-souper.

If we end up with absolutely no deal at all then of course you would probably expect * some very brief period* of some sort of disruption.

And how long would this 'very brief' period with supermarket shelves emptying, planes grounded, no UK lorries allowed to enter the EU etc. would be tolerated before some sort of civil disturbances started happening. Days, weeks, months?

Why shouldn't we believe Rees Mogg, MawBroon? He's the voice of Brexit, isn't he. Perhaps he's being honest for once...

Do you have firm evidence MaizieD of the scenario you describe, the grounded planes, our lorries excluded from mainland Europe etc or is this an imagined “worst case scenario” ?
I remember the oil crisis in the 70’s, the 3-day week, the power cuts and petrol shortages both then and since and we survived , indeed coped perfectly well.

I think I was perfectly clear why I take what JRM says with a pinch of salt.

Who takes either Boris or JRM seriously? Both have agendas and both are a law unto themselves.

For those that believe that for Britain should leave the European Union without at even a customs agreement should read the recent Bloomberg report in regard to such an event taking place.

In that, the report concludes that "in the long term" Britain if trading under World Trade Organisation terms would not be a location where large-scale manufacturing could be viable into the future. Bloomberg as a stock market trader and analyst are neutral in the present debate and therefore I feel should be respected in the reports they release.

Also, it is being reported in media surrounding the transport industry that only this week has this government requested companies with extensive supply chains to map those chains and supply that information to the government especially in regard to "just in time" (JIT) supply operations.

The above has "horrified" the entire transport industry as such an operation by such companies as supermarkets and large manufacturers is a huge operation to undertake and one which a large amount of resources will have to be devoted to. Also, as many supply chains encompass many different suppliers and distribution companies in those operations, no matter the amount of resources placed at the disposal of those carrying out those mapping operations, it will take an unknown number of months to complete.

All the above has been requested by this incompetent crowd that calls itself our government with less than nine months to go before Britain is supposed to be ready to leave the European Union.

I believe this government has also stated that it will set out the plans for a "no deal" Brexit to both business and the population in general in September. That begs the question, how will they do that with the supply chain map not being available to them at that time.

Without doubt that September report will be another "Brexit work of fiction" by this government.

I will try to look up the Bloomberg report referred to and post a link in this thread.

Go on then Grandad, I'll bite; what's your solution?

do :-):-):-P:-P you have firm evidence MaizieD of the scenario you describe, the:-)

I've already on this thread posted the links to the EU's notices to stakeholders which set out what the UK's position will be vis a vis the EU in the event of a No Deal brexit. You clearly couldn't be bothered to read them or you wouldn't be asking me for 'evidence'.

:-)Even our appalling government seems to be taking it a bit seriously, stockpiling medicines, planning a flotilla of generators, planning to close off a motorway to use as a lorry park and talking of preparing 'notifications' to UK citizens and businesses of what to expect in the event of No Deal.

I suggest that all you leavers with tory MPs write to them and have a little scoff about the government panicking unnecessarily.

Gawd, I hate this ruddy tablet that keeps on inserting :-)'s in random places

Now it is plastered all over the Sun - maybe some will take more heed. Those of us reporting it before the Sun did - were ot making it up for fun and glee !