so, when will you be starting stockpiling I wonder?

Come on, this is taking back control. These negotiations are the easiest ever conducted.

However, if any forum member happens to have an odd lorry or two hanging around they do not want, please contact the Department of transport. Buyer will most definitely collect.

Sadly there are too few true journalists working within our media nowadays.
Sensationalism and scaremongering are now the norm. Very little true research and impact analysis seems to occur. It is suprising how many articles appear in differen newspapers, but are almost word for word the same.

Jura you have been crying “Wolf” since the start of this thread.
Do you really expect anybody to take your doom laden prophecies with links to the Sun and DM seriously now?

jura2
Britain faces being thrown out of a Europe-wide network for treating rare diseases — depriving 150,000 UK citizens, two-thirds of them children, of their best hope for treatment

Do you in all honesty think this will occur especially as UK is the centre if excellence in the unlocking of the causes of diseases and development of treatments.
The UK played a massive part in the identification of DNA and the decoding of the same.
Although Canadians claim they found Stem Cells, Newcastle University is at the forefront if groundbreakung research and development. And there is Great Ormond Street Hospital where children are flown in from around the world for treatment.
The worldwide impact of research, disease identification and treatments emanating from UK is well documented and acknowledged.

Please form an orderly queue for ration books, tin foil hats and euthanasia pills. One per person. No pushing please.

This article is from The Times, not my invention.
All this research is truly international, and is based on the best everyone can offer.

And I sincerely wish you are right, for those poor kids. But how dare you call it 'scaremongering' - have you read the article?

Tell that to the parents and grandparents of the poor kids, with terrible diseases, who will no longer have access to the drugs they need, as their only hope. Sick
Too much exposure to the Sun, I think.
Hysterical negativity in every syllable. ?

Have you read Scarpa’s speech, jura? The bit about the UK being the acknowledged leader in the ERN? Children in the UK are not going to suffer, and I’m certain our innovative and highly skilled participants in the project will not leave children in other EU countries to suffer either. Your scaremongering about these poor kids is unacceptable. Sick indeed.

Rubbish! We are up there with innovations in some fields - it's quid pro quo.

I refuse to believe your doomy predictions jura! As I said, I voted remain but Britain hasn't suddenly become a basket case and will then sink without trace.

You profess to love Britain but do nothing but do us down. My expat bil bemoans the fact that his income is reduced since the brexit vote and wouldn't countenance coming back to live here.....but does visit to use the NHS!

Tel that to the parents and grandparents of the poor kids, with terrible diseases, who will no longer have access to the drugs they need, as their only hope. Sick.

Good quote maggiemaybe - a useful maxim.

Rather at odds with the speech I linked to, isn’t it? The one which ends with a Winston Churchill quote:
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

Britain faces being thrown out of a Europe-wide network for treating rare diseases — depriving 150,000 UK citizens, two-thirds of them children, of their best hope for treatment.

Six British medical experts, each head of one of the 24 specialisms covered by the European Reference Networks (ERNs), were this month stripped of their leadership roles, in preparation for the UK’s likely departure from the system next March under Brexit.

The ERNs link medical experts across the EU to treat people suffering from diseases whose rarity makes it difficult for any single country to build up specialist treatment centres. Each of the 24 networks covers a specific category such as childhood cancer, inherited liver disease,

Really, jura, enough already!

I can’t register to read the article you link to, but the recent statement by Maurizio Scarpa of the ERN makes it clear that everything will be done to ensure its work, and the considerable input by the UK, will not be affected by Brexit.

metab.ern-net.eu/brexit-effects-european-reference-networks/

As grandparents, maybe we should read this. So hope none of our grandchildren will be affected:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-threatens-rare-diseases-care-for-100-000-british-children-d52zvh7j0

Huge respect for Dominic Grieve- is he an extremist?:

news.sky.com/story/no-deal-brexit-would-see-uk-state-of-emergency-warns-dominic-grieve-11445199

What a load of nonsense. Life will continue as normal with perhaps a few inconveniences.

No probs but I find it strange that you had not read my posts of 12 .36 and 12.41 before commenting.
Clearly a salutary lesson?

Enough.
Moving on ....

Thank you for seeing that it was sincerely meant- however much we disagree on other issues.

Thank you for your apology Jura2.

Just wrote a very long message, which I erased by mistake.

Mawbroon, I am so so sorry to hear that. As I left GN for a very long time, and do not go on the social threads, I was not aware of this. Cant imagine how hard that must have been, and still is. And I send my most sincere condoleances.

The 'green eyed monster' comment was not aimed at anyone in particular. It has however been mentioned many times on Expat sites- that the lack of concern of empathy from relatives or friends was probably due to the 'oh you left UK because it/we were not good enough for you' and 'you keep posting photos of your wonderful house and garden, and your idylic life there ... so if things get tough for you ... well, you know... tough.

I am quite sure there is an element of that- and varying degrees of %.

I'd hope that the relatives and friends of those who have moved abroad some years back, having sold everything in the UK and planned very carefully- but now face severe health issues- with all the uncertainty of what will happen to their heathcare, and the knowledge they could not afford to go back - would have some empathy.

I totally agree that my new kitchen or world tour are totally and absolutely insignificant in the grand scale of things. Some people are really suffering, and truly do not know what they will do and how they will survive, and terrified they will have to rely on social services and non existent council housing- as their houses in France or wherever, will be worthless.

Again, I am sincerely sorry for your pain MawBroon.

I have never told anyone how I voted in the referendum; not here nor anywhere else, and nor will I. I've read all the posts on GN over the past year or so and can see both sides of the argument regarding the ramifications and implications of hard/soft Brexit, getting a trade deal or "jumping off the cliff" with no deal at all. But I'm somewhat taken aback to read that the main reason some posters want to reverse the decision to leave is because their round the world trips, new kitchens and 3rd or 4th annual holidays will be compromised, hence the wish to remain in the EU. To me, that's as unpalatable as the Brexiteers having voted to leave because of immigration and their racist beliefs. Each are as repugnant and unacceptable as the other. I suspect, and hope, that neither of these views are mainstream and are simply the rantings and ravings of people who have no earthly idea of anyone else's life, or why ordinary sane people voted as they did. However they voted.

Is the government paying suppliers for all this food they're stockpiling?

#justwondering

Much better to quote from papers that Leavers read and trust, Maw.


Does anyone trust the Sun apart from you, jura?

Yes indeed, Chewbacca
It was an uncalled for and an extremely spiteful remark, contained within an extremely smug post.