Brexit

Just one last comment Allygran1, If you do not accept my apology, I wholeheartedly withdraw it, you did not deserve it in the first place, but as gesture of Goodwill I offered one to you, however I am now more than ever certain that it wasn’t necessary in the first place .

Petra, I Do hope you have reported me,I look forward to hearing what Gn has to say.
Really some of you should stick to Private messaging each other , then you won’t have to concern yourselves with others perceptions & remarks, it will be a bit of a closed shop but you will at least enjoy it & be happy.

Nigglynellie sorry I haven't got around to the GE and Corbyn's stance changing from Remain at the referendum supported by the majority of Momentum, to his Pro Brexit stance at the General Election. I will take a look tomorrow.

Thanks for checking Mostly I will take a look tomorrow to see if there is a connection with either of them through the money. It neither proves or disproves that it is Momentum London or Momentum (London) all I can see at the moment is that there is another Momentum London that is indeed a Training Organisation but can't as yet prove it is the one referred to or not I can't see any connection with the Focaldata company and them but equally it could be so let's take a proper investigation. Leave it with me I am going off line now but I promise I will look into it thoroughly tomorrow. We will get to the bottom of it one way or the other.

You're welcome Ally and no doubt there'll be some who are amazed that a robot would want to express their gratitude.

Thank you so much to all of you who has spoke up for me.

My feelings of appreciation are very sincere and I am very touched by your kindness.

varian and Bridgeit
I have reported your posts to HQ.
For two so called educated women your behaviour is disgraceful.

I had never considered that the odd spelling and the plethora of apostrophes might be a ploy to conceal a robot!

There is no connection between the two organisations proved there ally. One is a business the other is a political movement with a similar name. What is the connection? Nothing that I can see.
Proof is needed of your allegation ally. You have offered no proof.

I have exchanged several pm's with Allygran where we have talked about various subjects, not just Brexit and can assure you that she is most definitely not a robot.

Whilst I realise that it is truly amazing how far technology has come, there is no way a robot exists with the intelligence, wit and sensitivity that Allygran has in spades and has been exhibited during our private conversations.

Varian your remarks about posters being robots suggest you are getting very near the edge, other posters don’t suggest that you are a bot from the Lib Dem office do they?

That should say I am normally of a very forgiving nature but not when I feel the apology is not genuine. I do not feel inclined to accept your apology, the nature of it being a general one in any case doesn't hack it as far as I am concerned.

Bridgeit I do not accept your apology. That is too easy offend and then when you have had your fun apologies all will then be well. That is what you do with your parents, when we grow up we realise that not all is forgiven when we smile and say sorry.

I am normally of a very forgiving nature if I thought you were genuinely sorry, but I don't.

Mostlyharmless
When you have information that the Momentum named by here in connection with Focaldata is not Momentum or is Momentum post it then we can decide if it is or not, either you will be wrong or I will be wrong and if I am I will apologies and if you are you can apologies. Not a problem to me either way
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Focaldata
Marketing Intelligence 2.0
London, England, United Kingdom
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Consumer, Consumer Research, Market Research, Predictive Analytics
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European Union (EU)
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2017
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Aidan Russell, Calvin Dudek, Justin Ibbett
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Well ally can you show us the “real fact’s” (sic) that connect your “Momentum.London” company with the “People’s Momentum” Labour Movement as you seem to be suggesting that the Observer/Guardian newspaper (a long established respectable news group) has Published a misleading opinion poll about Brexit.
Perhaps the Guardian Group need to be made aware of this evidence.
Your copious cut’n’paste does not make the connection (between Momentum.London and Momentum Labour movement) clear at all.

Now for those who think I am a robot. There really is no way I can convince you I am not. I could assure you to kingdom come, however you will either believe the silly nonsense that Varian and Bridgeit are putting out or you believe that I am flesh and blood just as you are.

Really there is nothing more I can say. I will continue to post, and let's see what they accuse me of next? I must be doing something right for them to feel so insecure about my presence on these threads.

Bridget clearly Varian thinks that your 'suspicions' about me are:
These robots are getting cleverer and cleverer, even to the extent of putting in little domestic asides and deliberately misusing apostrophes, to convince us that we are hearing from a not very well educated person rather than a very clever robot in a fake news factory in the Ukraine

Whenever you do this to stop the truth coming out or other people recognising that your limp and weak arguments can and are being countered with real fact's real argument and real information you try to discredit me and others who share good and reliable information. There are more and more of us now willing to share that level of discussion. Every time we get to a place where you are feeling insecure you start these derogatory comments. Your a piece of work Varian. I don't mind debating with anyone, human, or Robot. Humans can rationalize, Robots just fuze if overloaded and you don't like being overloaded do you Varian.
These childlike comments are just showing how insecure your argument must be, to try every tactic in the book to divide and conquer, you won't Varian because the truth is always recognised by people in the end.

Bridget what are our 'suspicions" about me? If you are talking behind my back then put up or shut up and be out in the open with your 'suspicions'.

Or perhaps your friend Varian might want to share your comment to her/him about me with all of us up front now, so I have the right of reply?

Mostly I can only tell you what is on the information I have already given to you. If you think that when they say Momentum that it does not mean Momentum then put up your research and we can take a look at it. The information is not a statement from me it is provided in connection with that Company Focaldata who took the commission from two Remain campaign groups. You have all the information I have.

There are such lovely grown up people on here !!Leave you to it ?

varian
Are you for real?

Thank you Varian,
My comments once made their way to the DailyMail on line, which I was not best pleased about, I guess I am a bit naive in this respect.

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Luckygirl I do apologise if I have contributed to spoiling your thread.

I should know better,as I have been the other side of the coin, I use to pride myself on being fair & compassionate,but I now recognise another not so attractive attribute in myself. I knew there was a reason that I don’t generally join social media.
Please do accept my apologies, also anyone else I may have also offend.

I started this thread with the observation that it is important that people listen to the views of those on both sides of this argument because both will have had valid reasons for their choice of vote. And that stereotyping those on the other "side" is unhelpful and achieves nothing. I also pointed out that some people are in the middle somewhere and also need to be listened to.

As I said before, there are those who had legitimate and sensible reasons for voting to leave that related to their life circumstances. If we cannot remember the adage that we need to walk in another shoes for a bit before we throw stones then what hope for any of us? It is a basic principle of successful human interactions that we ask why someone has taken an action that we disagree with.

I am saddened by the direction this thread has taken.