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Time to put differences aside and help the Greek people

(96 Posts)
jura2 Tue 24-Jul-18 22:04:58

what can we do- Europe must come together to help them.

Baggs Wed 25-Jul-18 19:08:39

I read the thread title and thought: "What differences? Are Greek people different from other sorts of people?"

Ha! I see others had similar thoughts.

Mentioning differences was just daft. Human beings need help. People are sending help, as they always do when a disaster occurs.

MawBroon Wed 25-Jul-18 17:52:31

Iam64 dare I admit that the Trumpisms were beginning to become apparent /get to me too?
“Low, very low” “sad, so sad”
I admit to complete bafflement as to why this thread was started and why the sh*t hit the fan when clarity was sought.
Ah well, perhaps Jura will reconsider when or if she calms down.

Elegran Wed 25-Jul-18 17:35:51

I don't know, but "Nikos Toskas, the public order minister, said there had never before been so many offers of firefighting help and lauded the solidarity other countries had shown. "

I think the nearest countries can probably be most help at once in practical ways - too many agencies all crowding into Greece could get in each other's way and hinder rather than help. There will be a need soon for rebuilding houses and caring for those who have lost everything. That will cost money and need expertise. Presumably the UK government and charities are making plans.

sodapop Wed 25-Jul-18 17:15:57

Getting back to the tragic situation in Greece, has the UK sent any sort of assistance ?
Those poor people who were trapped and died together, its difficult to comprehend.
I'm not sure what is happening now, only the death toll is up to 80.

MawBroon Wed 25-Jul-18 17:15:41

Wow, what on Earth have we missed while we were having a pleasant friendly lunch in charming Market Harborough?
? ? ??
Perhaps OP had a grannies’ task force in mind?
#stillnonethewiser

PECS Wed 25-Jul-18 17:07:46

jura If you had simply said ' I hope there will be a united response to the tragedy in Greece.. ' but your suggestion that political/ religious differences might make people not want to do what was possible to help needed clarification.

merlotgran Wed 25-Jul-18 16:45:38

No chance of a reasoned discussion when jura is spoiling for a fight, I'm afraid. hmm

Fennel Wed 25-Jul-18 16:45:24

Thanks Maggie smile.
I have a thick skin, for some things.

M0nica Wed 25-Jul-18 16:16:10

I do not often enter these controversies, but what could we have done that is not being done and what are the differences in Europe that are leading to them not being done?

If these two points were explained, it would be possible to have a reasoned discussion.

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 16:00:00

That's ok, petra is right, and you win, hurrah, as
that now makes me a LEAVER - pheew.
Adieu, Au Revoir, toodlepip.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:55:32

People have linked it to other issues, because that is their agenda and their mindset.
Sorry jura you were the one who mentioned differences and we have no idea what that meant.

As far as I know we have no differences with Greece whatsoever. ~Very puzzling.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:52:22

You can delete your own account, GNHQ does not have to do it for you.
You are the only one who can decide not to come back again if you do not wish to. GNHQ will, I presume, allow you back if you should ever change your mind again.

I am so glad I am a caring human being.
I am sure you are, as are so many Gransnetters.

Last time I remember this happened there was a relief fund set up here for victims as there has been after earthquakes there; presumably the same will happen again this time. The British people have always been most generous with their support after disasters worldwide.

Maggiemaybe Wed 25-Jul-18 14:46:47

Oh, jura, come on! Most of us simply asked what you meant, as we were genuinely baffled by your talk of "putting our differences aside". But really, your subsequent posts were bound to rub people up the wrong way.

If anyone has been insulted on here, I'd say it was Fennel.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:44:48

If you remain untouched by such tragedy- I do feel sorry for you

That is a shocking thing to say - everyone feels nothing but sympathy, a sick feeling at the thought of so much suffering and a wish to help

I am so glad I am a caring human being.

I did not understand what angle you were coming from in your OP jura and I think that others were equally bewildered.

petra Wed 25-Jul-18 14:43:41

jura2
So why didn't you just stop posting 1 week ago?

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:34:44

Please GN, can you delete my account and never allow me back, as I requested 1 week ago. Please- I do not want to be part of this Community.

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:32:15

It was not at all in my mind- yes I can see it might have been for some. so gentle questioning would have been appropriate, attacks and insults, not.

People have linked it to other issues, because that is their agenda and their mindset. I can't be responsible for them.

Elegran Wed 25-Jul-18 14:25:51

What you said was ambiguous, Jura and people took from it something that you didn't mean. For so many people to receive the same impression of what you were saying is a measure of how ambiguous it was.

It is not a sin to post something ambiguous, and it is not a sin either to have taken it in a different way to as it was meant.

petra Wed 25-Jul-18 14:18:48

and sick response from some
Obviously something's being lost in translation.

OldMeg Wed 25-Jul-18 14:07:02

I give up.

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 14:01:17

Re read what people have said- after their totally mis-interpreted my op and its intentions.

OldMeg Wed 25-Jul-18 13:59:12

You are mistaken jura and I think you need to stop spitting in fury re-read what you’ve written. You have indeed been insulting to several people and if it was not meant then a simple apology would help.

I have no reason to twist anyone’s words. I quoted back what you had posted and it was quite unambiguous.

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 13:54:06

and again, being un-British and Trumpish - insults indeed.

jura2 Wed 25-Jul-18 13:53:11

My post was totally misinterpreted, by those who make assumptions based on their prejudice. I will take NO responsibility for this.
Yes, twisiting the meaning and intention of my post - and then wondering why those tragic deaths in the most awful of circumstances, would make anyone wish to respond and do something, anything to help.
Of course I was not telling anyone to do anything- just hoping people would get together to do our best to help. And I have insuted no-one- your wrong assumptions and accusations of blethering and being melo-dramatic are insulting- very much so.

OldMeg Wed 25-Jul-18 13:38:17

How dare you suggest any of us are untouched by such tragedy ?

I find that offensive and untrue. Get a grip jura and stop insulting people.